Poisons in our Food

[00:00:00] Jeremiah: Hello!, my fellow, terrestrials coming to you from an RV deep in the Carolina mountains. Welcome to the what if they’re wrong podcast, the podcast that wants you to question everything, your reality is about to be shattered.

hello. This is the, what if they’re wrong podcast? And I’m joined today by Jody Holden. And we’re going to be talking about health wellness food. And how it all plays into your life and making you a better person. So I’ll introduce her now. Hello, Jodie.

[00:00:52] Jodie: Hi Jeremiah, how are you?

[00:00:54] Jeremiah: Good. How are

you?

[00:00:56] Jodie: I’m good. Thank you.

[00:00:58] Jeremiah: So what, let you start down this path to wealth and making sure you’re eating well and staying fit and all that stuff.

[00:01:12] Jodie: Okay, well, I’ll be honest. I’ve certainly had healthier periods in my life from a physical perspective. So, um, I had children at quite a young age. I sort of did the whole left school, did college thing, and then, um, got into a relationship.

So as a young. You know, you don’t want to feel frumpy. So I initially started investigating and really trying to learn because there’s that many different diet plans out there. There’s that many different ideas of what good nutrition is supposed to be. Um, I wanted to know what would work best for my baby.

So I think probably one of the first eye-opening things was learning more about the biochemistry of what we talk about with soup foods. So the idea that you can consume food items that are not only going to be. The full of nutrition or the should be full of nutrition if they’re in a more natural state, but they’re going to be anti-inflammatory, they’re going to be antioxidants.

So they support all of the systems in the body. And, um, at the same time as that, as well as being a mum, I started studying, I was doing a degree in social sciences and. Within that, although it was whole spectrum. So the first year we looked at everything from psychology to sociology, to economics and politics and, uh, social policy.

So what I was learning in my own personal investigations for my own sick, for my own health to get the baby weight off. And all of that, what I was seeing is that what we’re provided with, through our health care system in the UK, I know, you know, you’re over in the U S. Different healthcare system between us.

We’ve got the national health service right in the UK. So what was being offered in terms of information, advice around nutrition, through that and what we were seen as major crises, not only what you would expect in terms of obesity and that kind of stuff, diabetes, heart disease, all of the stuff that comes with having a poor diet.

There’s also a very strong connection between. The effects of poor nutrition on mental health and our emotional wellbeing as well. You know, these, these become much more, um, obvious it’s discussed more openly now at that time, you know, we’re going back 20 years. So there was very little discussion about how the good bacteria in your gut helped to support and communicated.

Through the mind, body connection communicated with what hormones were released, you know, through the biochemistry from the brain. And it, it wasn’t at that pain, really a topic that I could see many people talking about. So I was doing a whole lot of research, both academically and in my own personal investigations to really figure out what, why would we have systems in place?

That could use very cost-effective measures. Um, but instead they’d rather, you know, prescribed medications and that sort of stuff. So that’s what got me very much interested in health and the freedom and the revolution side of it, which as you know, is a project I’m working on at the moment.

Yeah. So what is, sorry if I am not super knowledgeable, what is your whole movement and organization like focused on.

Okay. So health, freedom revolution. Um, it is about bringing a more holistic approach to health. So yes, nutrition is a part of that, but of course you can be in really good physical shape, but not great mental or emotions. The state’s right. So we know what’s going on with the last couple of years has been very stressful for a lot of people.

And there’s many factors to that. There’s the isolation side of it. There’s the fact that a lot of people it’s affected their incomes and for some people they’ve lost their incomes entirely. So there can be a lot of financial stress. Um, we know that there’s links now between what’s been going on and we’ve seen a rising.

People reporting, being depressed are even, you know, the suicide rates have increased. There’s a lot of people that have been struggling with the pressures of being so contained and cut off from the support systems that they would normally have. So the thankfully given the networks that I’ve got, I’ve worked in further in higher education for a number years.

I know a lot of other people that are professionals in other respective fields. Some health-related some with magical backgrounds, some from a more alternative approach. I know people that have knowledge around the law and the legalities and the health freedom rights side of it. So through various conversations and, um, But the colleague who I work most closely with TALEN, she had also been having seamless.

Thoughts and ideas around what we need is a service it’s comprehensive that people can come to a community and have access to experts from all different backgrounds. So regardless of what that particular challenge may be, if it’s physical, great, we’ve got doctors and medical professionals. Our alternative therapists that can help.

If it’s Myra on a mental level, we’ve got counselors, we’ve got people that can help you relieve yourself of the deaths. We’ve got people who can, um, you know, if you’ve faced in being unemployed as a result, The mandates that are happening around, you know, I don’t know if I dare say the V word it’s been censored everywhere, but you know, the fact that people are being told they’re gonna lose their jobs.

If they don’t make a certain choice when it comes to what should be medical freedom, um, what can you do about that? So we’ve got legal and lawful expert. I can talk about that and guide people through a process where they feel more empowered and they’re able to actually stand up for themselves. So it’s all of that.

And. By having it as a community where people can come to group coaching sessions and our, um, trainings, you know, we’re going to be providing trainings. There is going to be opportunity for one to one consultations, but actually by doing things in small group environment, she meant 10 a sense of community.

And this part at the same time, it’s not so overwhelming that you can’t deal with each person’s individual. Questions are concerns, you know, within that environment. So most of it will be done that way and it lowers the cost massively rather than having to pay our fees to go and try to access that information and advice individually.

It’s a service where it’s all covered within a small membership fee. So that’s the model that we’re working with. And one of the wonderful things about it, as well as. For those that can afford to do that. That’s great. It’s not going to be overly expensive. So most people will be able to, but those that can, we’ve got a, not for profit model that we use in.

So beyond our expenses that we have to cover in order to be able to provide the service beyond that any profit will go into what we’re calling a bursary fund and the people that need it most. And haven’t got the funds to access it. We can pay for the services for them through that bursary fund. So that’s what we’re just getting off the ground, you know, the launches this coming weekend.

So it’s a crazy times around side of things, but it it’s worth it, you know? Cause we’re already seeing people that are genuinely relieved that there’s going to be that help available.

[00:09:37] Jeremiah: Yeah. It’s very important. Um, I don’t think enough people. Realize, what you put in your body can really affect your health.

And it seems like the systems, especially in America, I don’t know about over there, but in America they want to throw prescription pills at you instead of actually fixing what the root of their problem is. So it seems like it, a lot of these illnesses that people are experiencing. Probably boiled down to what they’re consuming from my opinion.

So I don’t know, uh, how you feel about that.

[00:10:18] Jodie: I would agree. I think yes, absolutely. The diet and hydration is a massive part of this as well, because I think. It’s true for America as well. As far as in the UK, there’s a whole lot of chemicals going into our drinking, you know, drinking water supplies. Um, in interestingly, one of the speakers that we’ve got at the summit.

Did an interview the other day is like an introduction with her she’s campaigning at the moment, because they’ve just brought in a proposal for new legislation to give our government the right to decide to fluoridation policy for the entire country. We’ve never had that before. What we used to have. Uh, local areas would decide and, you know, the local pupil should get a say in that, um, that the trying to change that.

So I agree as far as foods are concerned, there’s certainly a whole lot more effort that goes into promo in, you know, the, the unhealthy stuff. It’s funny because the reason the summit we’ve designed it as we have is we’ve got people, experts from all different backgrounds. So in addition to talking about like the, the hydration and the water supplies, I was also having a chat with another speaker who his background is.

Uh, world renowned, um, specialist in Nordic gardening. Right? So what we’re trying to do is promote that people can find easy and fun ways to actually grow their own produce. So you’re not relying on big businesses. Big government and whatnot actually giving you what’s good for you because I think one thing that most people have seen now is that not what is happening, right?

So, um, he was talking about how, you know, the soil and the environment that you’re growing, your fruits and vegetables and whatnot in plays a massive role in what the nutritional value of what you’re consuming is. If you buy in commercially it, number one, the regulations as they are in the UK farmers have to adhere to certain protocols in order to receive the subsidies that they get from the government.

So they’re having to use fertilizers and, um, that sort of pesticides and, you know, all that kind of stuff. That’s not great for the foods that we’re consuming. It wasn’t all that long ago. It was only a couple of generations ago that it was pretty common. Most people within your family you’d have someone that had an allotment or that grow their own fruits and veggies at home.

It’s become much more trend in our, like the convenience side of things first to just go and be able to purchase whatever we want to purchase from whichever, you know, supermarket or whatever. Um, Within that space of time, that, that maybe 40 year period where we switched from people being more self sufficient to becoming more convenient shoppers, we’ve seen a massive spike in anything and everything from your various cancers and your heart disease and your diabetes and all of that.

Although. There’s an argument to suggest it’s never been proven that there’s a direct cause and effect happening there. S the, certainly the correlation that I don’t think we can ignore. So. As far as what we’re consuming. Of course there needs to be some personal responsibility with that, but we also need to attend to the fact that within the supply chains, within whether it’s your water supply, whether it’s your food supply decisions will be made on our behalf, that are not in our best in.

So it’s how do you then counter that? Because another part of it, which is very close to my heart from the social scientific studies that I did. So I did the, my first degree was social sciences, the broad spectrum. By the end of that honed in very much so on the psychology side of it, I then studied education and went on to teaching further and higher education, and then did a master’s degree in linguistics because I was very interested in the messaging where, you know, we’re in the information age, we’ve been bombarded with advertisements and media and you know, the constant on a constant basis with.

That information is entering our system in one way, shape or form, whether it’s subconscious or not, you know, there’s what we attend to. And then there’s what we’re subliminally receiving. And that’s a huge part of health as well. So, When I say full spectrum or broad spectrum approaches to health, that’s what we’re doing with health.

Freedom revolution is looking at all the different aspects. Where can we take responsibility and where are we being attacked for lack of a better expression, you know, that w w where are the threats and what do we do to release ourselves from those threats? So that it’s not something that. We play in a game of one step forward, two steps back all the time, because you can address one component.

But if then, you know, if your diet is good, but you’re drinking the water from your national supply and that’s not great. Now you’ve got a problem. So, you know, it’s that it’s being able to ensure that people have got easy solutions that they can implement without too much cost and disruption, but it covers all bases.

[00:16:24] Jeremiah: Yeah, they definitely, um, try to get you to eat all the bad food cause they make all the best, like advertisements for it and stuff like that. And then there has been, well, from my perspective, there’s a big issue with. A lot of alcohol consumption, especially here in the states, uh, it’s become like the cool thing to do to go get drunk all the time.

And like that obviously has a negative effect effect on you as well. And, but they put so much money into advertising to have. Be a thing. Not saying you can’t drink, but just like your general health.

[00:17:14] Jodie: Yeah, no, you’re absolutely right. I think, um, I dunno if you’ve ever been to the UK here in Britain, you know, places by the Pope crawls are available, so you start going, oh yeah.

I’ve seen that. Yeah. We went to. Yeah, problem that bar and this, and, um, it’s very much a part of the social culture for us is, you know, if you want to celebrate something, you get together, you have a few beers are, you know, a glass of wine or whatever, and in moderation, fine. But we would be doing ourselves a disservice if we didn’t knowledge that it is a toxin, you know, so probably isn’t that we’re putting in a system.

So. Again, if you have everything in place to help your body detoxify efficiently and naturally not a problem, it’s when the toxins start building up, you know, that I’m sure there’s a book, um, with the title you’re not sick, you’re toxic, you know, um, I don’t know the author off the top of my head and I just remember seeing the title.

So my, um, Uh, but it’s, uh, it’s absolutely true because every system is in to connected within the body. So if, for instance, your lymphatic system, which is what is working to drain the toxins out your system, and you know, that should be coming out through waste. If that’s not happening efficiently and you start to get a buildup, that’s going to have a knock on effect to your immune system because you’ve essentially then got posted.

Actively, you know, sort of floating around in your system, um, that happens, then it’s going to start to have an effect on your nervous system. If that happens, that’s going to have an effect on your mental wellbeing. It’s a knock on effect. So, um, I agree as far as alcohol is concerned, I think one of the dangers as well is because it’s so convenient, it’s so readily available anywhere and everywhere.

You know, we don’t think of it. The same way that we would a substance that we’ve been programmed to see us I’m full and all, um, you know, the. If it’s an illegal substance, we automatically have that. Ooh, this is dangerous. It’s not good for us. Whereas we’ve been brought up with a message in the, you know, let’s celebrate, have a beer, let’s do this.

Yeah. Cheers to that. You know? So we, we attach psychologically enjoyment to the consumption of it, which makes it fine now. And again, but if you become dependent, Now you’ve got a problem because it’s not just a physical dependency more often than not within addiction. It’s a psychological dependency.

That’s far stronger than the physical. So yeah. That’s definitely something that we have to be aware of, you know?

[00:20:14] Jeremiah: Yeah. And I also, um, have heard. And I guess you can witness it yourself is if you go to like a grocery store, all the bad food is in like the middle, like the most common area. And then the outside is where your more healthier options are.

And they designed it that way. Cause they know most people are going to go through the middle and then the packaging obviously.

[00:20:41] Jodie: Absolutely. There’s so much within that industry. Um, uh, I don’t just mean, you know, your food and beverage sales industry, but the PR the marketing side of it, that’s one of the things within, you know, when you’re looking at psychology and how it’s been applied through social policy and through social Constructionism, which, um, There’s a fascinating documentary called the century of the self.

I don’t know if you’ve ever seen that, but yeah, it’s quite a popular one. It’s quite well known. One. It goes into the background of, um, Edward Bernays. Had he been A’s right. So he was froze nephew. He studied how propaganda had been used in the second world war. And then took the same principles, repackaged it, and that became modern PR.

And then the added to that, because obviously we’ve now designed more sophisticated ways of studying human psyche through not just psychological studies as in. Um, gathering information through testimonies and that sort of stuff. We’ve now got a neuroscientific approach where we can literally measure the signals that which aspects of the brain are active.

And you know, what is that releasing? We can, it’s the chairman reaction that we can now trace. We can see what emotional reactions people are having to, you know, certain images, certain, um, video clips, certain sensations. So having. And the industry with all of that information and now having what we’ve got with, you know, social media and the fact that we can be targeted in a very individualized and specific way.

There is no wonder that there’s an epidemic of people suffering from health and wellbeing issues because we are being influenced to make the wrong choices on a regular basis. Very cleverly. And another thing that, about that documentary. I hadn’t realized it was very interesting to me at the time. It talks about how one of Edward Bernays’s initial campaigns that were very successful and really sort of put him on the mappers, you know, this godfather of this new PR arena that he’d created, right.

He, um, major companies within the cigarette industry. Had approached him and said, you know, it’s really uncool at the minute. It was socially unacceptable for women to smoke at that time they associated. Uh, psychologically for people was a, it was something that, you know, tough guys did and big, strong men, and they associated it with like the soldiers from the walks.

The soldiers have all been given for your rations of cigarettes to. Encourage them to use them to help to stabilize the nerves. So as you do, when you’re being given free things, and you’re in a horrendous situation, if you’ve got something that’s going to help you, you’re going to use it. Right. So there’s a lot of men smirked, but hardly any women did because they didn’t want to be perceived as unfeminine and, you know, to take the social backlash on that.

So. Big sort of corporations from the industry at approached Edward Benares and said, well, you know, we need to do something about this. Cause we’re missing out on a whole lot of profit. We could do with a whole lot more people being able to, um, purchase our products. Yeah. He came up with a campaign where he had search lights in New York.

I believe it was go to some major social event where there would be press and whatnot there. I think the possibly even arranged for press to be there. And had them photograph smoking and it a bit of a, like a women’s liberation sort of starry, you know, and they all got blown up in the media and everyone was talking about it.

So that changed women’s perceptions of. It was no longer a disgusting on feminine. Who do you think you are? You’re not one of the guys kind of thing. Now, hang on a minute. I’m empowered. I, I get to show, you know, I’m a woman hear me roar. So things. So, you know, they got really behind that and the sales for cigarettes for women went through the roof.

So it’s that sort of stuff you can trace back throughout history. Whenever there’s been a means through which. The, um, it said special interests of governing bodies and or rulers of any kind have had the ability to affect change socially. They’re always going to do it in a way that’s going to profit them, you know, and I, I think most people realize now that.

Governments are corporations themselves. They are also very private interest oriented. So yeah, it is fascinating when you start to look at the various examples of it, but what you’re describing with the food, how things are placed and the, you know, everything is chorus, psychology, the colors that they use to give you that.

Underlying feeling of like, oh yeah, this is really gonna rev me up. Ah, wow. Yeah. That’s really new. Chill me out, whatever, whatever it is, we don’t even realize a lot of the time the messaging that we’re attending to which take it for granted as part and parcel of, you know, it’s just what everybody knows is what is everything that we’re used to?

[00:26:43] Jeremiah: Hmm. Yeah. They, there’s a page. Um, thing now the energy drinks, and a lot of people are drinking these energy drinks, and they’re actually terrible for you and they destroy your kidney and your liver, and all kinds of give you heart problems. And, but there’s people that use them all the time and drink multiple a day.

And I’ve heard of some bad effects from those things.

[00:27:13] Jodie: Yeah. Well, I know they’ve done studies and it’s been proven that one of the artificial sweeteners that the put in those kind of drinks and many other products, in fact, most, if it’s a diet product, if it tells you it’s, you know, sugar-free typically there’s going to be an artificial sweetener in there to compensate for the sugar that’s not in.

Right. So a lot of the time if they use. Aspartame. I know studies have shown the effects on the brain from that is the equivalent to using cocaine. So. We wouldn’t give that to us kids, but yeah, we will allow him to have cereals. And, uh, like you saying, maybe not the energy drinks, I don’t know many parents encourage, but yeah.

Soda. Yeah. Your diet soft drinks, that kind of stuff. Um, absolutely. So you think of that on a consumer? Regular basis, maybe even daily basis, um, the effects are going to build up and then we go and there’s this epidemic of ADHD and add, and you know, like there’s these conditions. So we’ve got hyperactivity disorder and people can’t concentrate.

And there’s many factors that are contributing to that, but I don’t think we can ignore that. This is certainly one of them.

[00:28:41] Jeremiah: Yeah. And then, um, back in the day they had that food pyramid and everyone was supposed to follow it. So, but now they’re saying, well, some people are saying that it should actually be like flipped upside down that they were totally wrong with.

What we’re supposed to consume. There’s a lot more like allergens. Now, a lot more people seem to have allergies to things that I don’t remember hearing about before. Maybe that’s due to the chemicals in all in the food. I don’t know what your take is on that.

[00:29:19] Jodie: I know for hours, the nutritional advice that we used to have, um, rather than pyramid.

When I was at school, they would show you a plate and sort of, you know, section it off into however many, um, Whatever the ratio is. I am trying to think, I believe we had it where it was 60% sort of grants, you know, like your carbohydrates, um, which I think most people realize now that that’s not great.

And there’s definitely a link between a lot of your, you know, you’ve got your wheat intolerances and gluten intolerance and all of that. Um, which without doubt. We have had, we’ve seen within the industry lobbying to have certain food items, whether it should dairy or, um, I know at one time growing organic vegetables were seen as being, um, wasteful that the yields, you know, the land that you were using, the, the yields went, um, up to scratch up to par for what.

Um, for our country, what was needed for the food supply. So there’s been a whole lot of lobbying to stop certain practices and people moving away from, um, your carbohydrates and you must produce factory produced sort of foods. Um, a lot of money’s being thrown it convinces. To move in the opposite direction.

So yeah, I’m not a specialist in it. I’m not an expert in the nutritional side of it. And where that does have a knock on effect to the allergic reactions, but just from anecdotal information, just from my own personal. Circumstances, you know, I know many people that have been suffering with that, and I know that when they’ve cut out a lot of the mass produced crap, and I know when they’ve cut out a lot of the, um, the grains and that sort of stuff, and just stuck to, you know, lean proteins, mob greens, and fresh fruit and vegetables, the being a whole lot better.

The health has. I love the conditions of reversed, which I think that just goes to show why you don’t need to go and have, you know, a prescription for some sort of medication that is only gonna mask the symptoms. It’s not going to get to the root cause it’s just going to present itself in some of the way through some other set of symptoms once you suppressors.

So I think knowing that you can reverse a lot of what people are suffering and struggling with. You know, another example is I know a whole lot of people that are suffering with, um, like abs and you know, all that kind of stuff. Of course you, can’t different, you know, you can’t separate what you put in into your system.

That’s got to work its way through your system. If you ha, if you serve them with like digestion and then that sort of stuff. Of course there’s a link there. So, um, yeah, that’s, that’s my experience of it, but I’ve not worked one-on-one with clients and, you know, put protocols in place to speak definitively about, you know, what the, uh, overall answer to that is.

I think a lot of it is common sense to be honest. Yeah, I don’t know about from your point of view, have you found if there’s certain foods that you eat, you, you know, you can tell you feel a certain style, where do you experience any kind of symptoms?

[00:33:08] Jeremiah: Yeah, so, uh, I don’t know, probably like five, six months ago, I found out that I have a issue with my liver and they.

Pinpointed it kind of to my eating habits because I hadn’t been eating healthy like at all. And so I went on like a Mediterranean diet, uh, where I ate mostly like fish and some chicken and a lot of fruits and vegetables and like figs and dates. And I definitely could tell, like, after like a couple of weeks of eating that, that I just felt like so much better.

I was less tired. Um, I didn’t have, it sounds weird, but like a brain fog was kind of like gone. Cause I hear from other people too, like they have kind of like a fog in their brain and it’s probably due to all the sugar and salt and everything they put in all the food now and, uh, how your body can’t really process it like it’s supposed to, but I definitely feel way better when I’m eating

[00:34:20] Jodie: healthy.

That makes complete sense. And, and of course, you know, as you’ve said, the energy levels and all that sort of stuff there, the, those effects kick in within a few days. So, uh, certainly I find that, you know, cause it’s like, we’re human and we’re living in this world where there’s all these temptations. And, um, you know, I do know some people that are.

Unbelievably healthy. Um, and you know, very strict about what they put in the system. Most people, I know it’s the 80 20 rule. If you’re 8% of the time he, you making the right choices, then you can have cheat days and relax a little bit. Can’t you when you want to. Um, and then I know some people are incredibly unhealthy the choices at the mag, and there’s no doubt what you were describing with the brim fog.

A thousand percent I can tell just to, you know, as I’m constantly answering emails or designing sessions or delivering sessions, uh, it. It is very difficult. If you are running down and you suffering from that brain fog and you know, it takes 15 minutes to write an email that you really needed to do in 30 seconds a thing.

It just really interferes with your life in a multitude or other way. I would say with that as well. The hydration side of it is a massive factor, and it’s not just about how much water is in quantity. You’ve got a new system because you have to think on we’re electromagnetic beings. So when we increase like the, the fruits and vegetables that we, it’s not just about the nutrients that’s in that.

They each and I’ll act as a, let’s say a little package of distilled water, which, you know, comes from nature. So that in and of itself helps with cell hydration. You can have a whole lot of fluid in your system. But if it’s full of toxins itself, what the cells are absorbing is not informing them to function optimally.

So you’re still gonna see that you’ve got, you know, issues. So it’s the two sides of it. Yes. Diet, yes. Hydration. Um, but certainly you mentioned right at the start with the introduction, the fitness side of it as well. Because if you stagnate, you know, if there’s not flow, we’re electromagnetic beings providing we well-hydrated and we’ve got the right, you know, when we talk about nutrients, really, we’re talking about frequencies of information.

If you really get into it, um, if we’ve got that on pine, then not moving around enough is going to be the next obstacle that you face because, um, That energy has to go somewhere. Something has to happen with that energy. So you’re going to find you either develop conditions that we would describe as being more like your hyperactivity or your anxiousness, because your nervous system’s on overdrive or is going to be started as some sort of fat deposit.

You know, you can’t have surplus energy. It should be energy in energy. Yeah. So you’ve got to move as well. You know, the there’s all that side of

[00:37:53] Jeremiah: it. It could build up on your depression too. If you’re not active, then that energy could be. Turning into your depression as well. Cause we talked about that a little bit.

Like people being depressed because of the pandemic and being locked in their house and all that stuff. So just seems like it definitely could be. Cause if you’re just holed up in your apartment or your house and you can’t really do much, so that energy has got to go somewhere.

[00:38:27] Jodie: Yeah. It’s this density and you know, I mentioned.

I started transition from social sciences to then study in linguistics language as an energetic tuning device, essentially. And think of the language that we use on an everyday basis. When we talk about. Being on a high, you being on top of the world, up in the clouds, like, you know, there’s a positive connotation to that.

When you talk about being on your ass down in the dumps, now that I need to pick myself back up from this it’s at that downward merge and it’s that, and that, you know, we’re describing what we would associate with depressive stairs. The only difference between a diagnosis of depression. There are, there are different farms, but everything is interconnected, right?

So you can talk about depression from a clinical perspective. That means you’ve been experiencing the stairs powerfully enough, long enough or frequently enough that it’s now created a biochemical reaction within your body. That’s a clinical diagnosis that you’re going to get. On the other hand, we can talk about emotional depression, which tends to be more circumstantial and people would argue well, yeah, if you’re clinically depressed, that’s when you need to go and get the pharmaceuticals.

If you’re emotionally depressed and it’s circumstances. Change the circumstances then ill alleviate the stress. Then you’re not going to feel depressed. However, the only difference really is that this is a process and one’s further along than the other. It starts, it always starts mentally and emotionally, any kind of physical disturbance, any sort of disease.

It will start mentally and emotionally first over a prolonged period of time. If it’s not addressed. You will start to manifest, or you will start to develop physical symptoms. And then we start using all different types of labels for that. So what if you’re aware of what the actual fabric of this reality that we’re all intertwined with operates as it becomes much easier then to understand that first and farmers.

I need to ensure that I’m practicing what feels like I know self love becomes a bit of a woo. You know, feel it. Oh, are you caring for yourself? Are you, are you actually attending to what makes you feel good? Because more often than not with that busy, are we doing what’s convenient are some, a lot of the time we just trying to numb, we’re just trying to switch off from things because we’re so bombarded that then when we do get home and we do just want a few beers into our repeat, so in to veg and watch some telly, that typically is our way of wanting to just disconnect from reality because it’s, you know, the.

As nerve’s afraid, oh, you know, his brain is tired or whatever, you know, whatever it is that you personally experience it. As I know, I certainly have those days where I’m like knows now I just need to put a box set on. And again, that brings us then back to the. Overarching external systems, because how and why?

It, this is one of the questions that really spurred me on to take a bit of a diversion from the academic path that I was on. It was pretty clear cut to me. I was going to finish my master’s in linguistics. So we’re going to go straight onto PhD. I thought I’d spend the rest of me years working in academia and I were going to be a lecturer and write books.

You know, that, that’s what I intended for myself, but when I was studying linguistics and I was, so the first thing was I attended a lecture where we were talking about universal metaphor. And what I’ve just been describing to you with the up and down thing that came up, but also what came up was the light and dark thing.

So, you know, we talk about people being radiant. We talk about people beaming, she lit up the room, he filled the stage, you know, we, we talked like that. And then we talk about being an adapt place. Uh, people having a dark heart, uh, you know, so there’s this contrast and what. The, the cost leader who was delivering this lecture was saying is how strange that throughout history, any, and every culture, whatever period of time, any age group, any gender, whatever have always used these sorts of terms, these T you know, there’s terminology to describe these certain experiences and these certain stairs.

And at the time. Again, just out of my own personal interest, I’d read, um, a few books about how we are bio photonic beings. And when we’re in a good state of health, we translate. Frequencies of light that are more powerful than if we’re in poor health. And if we’re in a happy stair, we do literally, it’s a literal physical effect that can be measured.

We do transmit more light when we’re in a high powered, positive stay, you know, anything and everything. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen David Hawkins, a scale of consciousness. I have possibly not know, not to worry it’s if you look it up, you’ll see what I mean. So there’s in, in alignment with each immersion, we might experience, there’s a measurement, a frequency that can be measured as to what we transmit in app.

And that is, uh, essentially frequencies of light. We are beings of light. Now there’s no secret to that. We’ve known that in. Quantum physics and quantum biology, and it’s been well-proven scientifically and academically. So when I raised that pine in the lecture that I was in and using the term metaphoric isn’t.

Accurate because the metaphor assumes it’s not actually the same thing. It’s like something. Well, if there’s a literal physical effect, it’s no longer a metaphor, is it? So actually what we need is an interdisciplinary approach to this where we’re drawing, what’s being discovered in the scientific arenas, into what’s being studied in linguistics.

And actually then we can start to. Hmm. So reframe the conversation around this and it can give us insights into something that’s a whole lot more powerful and tells us a whole lot more about these ideas that we’ve written off as being in woo, crazy metaphysical stuff. You know, the law of attraction and power of active.

And then yeah, all of that stuff, actually, this, some truth that we use in different language for it, but. Beacons of energy. We are transmitting information and it is having an effect on anything and everything connected to his relationships, to us health, to, you know, essentially how we show up in the world.

So, um, that is what kind of taught me down that path of exploring these subjects, mark, because we’re getting resistance. Other academics sort of saying, oh, well, no, you know, that’s a bit of a leap. We can’t just assume. And it’s like, well, there’s no assumption, fair enough for the maybe other studies that we can do around it to just have a more accurate understanding of it.

But this there’s a whole lot of credibility here. So, you know, we shouldn’t be dismissing it. Um, So, yeah, I’m just trying to remember why I went off on that tangent. Something about energetics. I remember, but I let you, yeah,

[00:46:49] Jeremiah: you can definitely tell, um, like people’s auras. So if like someone’s down, you can tell, uh, they don’t have to tell you.

You can tell that they’re feeling down or if someone’s really like lively and feeling good, you can tell, they just admit, like you said, admit that aura that you can just tell

[00:47:12] Jodie: you can feel it, you know, depending again, there’s like a client of where you’ve got people who are highly sensitive energetically and people who are hardly sensitive.

Energetically, none of us are completely. And sensitive in the sense that we’ve all got that capacity because the cells, but, you know, by design, we are a configuration. I feel like of trillions of cells and they each have little antennas on them that are picking up frequencies of information. You know, that’s what the whole field of epigenetics is about.

Is it not only what’s going on within your physical. The body and the systems, or, you know, governing that it’s, it’s also what we’re absorbing from the environments around us. So there’s that, but, and, and some of it is, you know, it’s a more visible thing you can see through your physical senses. You can hear in someone’s voice.

If they’re depressed, the S you know, the sound frequencies you can tell with the turns and the, you can tell with posture, you know, when you look at body language, that that’s one of the things that’s one of the quick hacks that you can do. If you are feeling down in the dumps, and you’re getting fed up with yourself, one thing you can do.

You can shift your state by shifting your pot past your stand up, you know, spread out, stretch, um, just run on the spot for 15 seconds, whatever, and it’ll completely change your biochemistry. So, you know, the there’s that, um, I think the very simple tools and people often mistake simplicity with it. Can’t be that effective kind of thinking.

But within psychology, there’s a whole field now that is positive psychology. That’s what they focus on. And there’s so much, that’s been discovered about a lot of the things that we did, right. Offers woo. Now we’re seeing merit and credit where it’s due a lot of. Teachings of spiritual thought leaders and stuff like that.

We’ve seen it come up time and time again, this idea around practicing gratitude, more deliberately instead of just, you know, being caught up in the negativity of the modern world sort of thing, that kind of stuff can make a huge difference. Um, so yeah, this is all the stuff that with the health freedom revolution we want to integrate because there’s no one thing.

Has all the answers, but there’s certainly a lot of different discoveries that have been made that haven’t been incorporated with your typical healthcare systems as they operate at the moment.

[00:49:57] Jeremiah: Yeah, they definitely, from my perspective, just want to patch the problem and not actually fix it because like we spoke before, they just want to shove pills at you and that’ll get you through instead of fixing exactly.

Is ailing you in the first place. I know my brother had high blood pressure and the beginning of type two diabetes and he changed his eating. And now he’s off his blood pressure medicine and his diabetes medicine. So it can be done for her.

[00:50:35] Jodie: Yeah. And what is heartening is here in more of those accounts as well?

Because I do think there are more and more people. I don’t think it’s all related to, what’s been going on this last two years, but I think there’s certainly been even more of a spike in people wanting that sovereignty, wanting to take control of the conditions of their own lives because they felt it’s being taken out of their hands in.

Where’s the. It had been before, but never to the same degree. It wasn’t in your face the way it has been this last couple of years. And you know, it certainly raises my spirits to see people standing up for what they believe in and providing the, put the effort in, and they’ve done the research and the know what the target about, then everyone should be heard.

I think. This whole idea of not being able to question the science side of things like science literally translates to the study of if you stop studying you stop science. So, you know, we, we need to remember that and I’m not saying that. The can’t be coexisting theories, a birth. True. You know, you’re going to have that sometimes you’re going to have, well, I’m saying this over here.

Well, okay. That’s fine. But the evidence for what I’ve focused on surpass their server there. So maybe there’s more study needs to be done to find the middle ground as to how the two connect. Yeah, that’s fine. But to just have this dismissive approach and, you know, anybody and everybody that talks about this stuff, all of a sudden, a conspiracy theorists and , and you know, it’s all that.

And it’s like, well, As far as if a conspiracy theories is someone that doesn’t agree with the mainstream narrative. Not that that’s a problem now we’ve got a problem. Now we need to look at what’s actually going on with the whole notion of freedom of speech and what it is to be a sovereign being. You know, if we can’t think for ourselves.

W w we no longer belonged to ourselves. And if you don’t belong to yourself, there’s an existential crisis about to happen.

[00:53:01] Jeremiah: Then you have a problem.

So for anyone who’s currently feeling down or feels like they need to turn their health and wellness around, what’s like a. Like pep talk. You could give him for like going in the right direction.

[00:53:23] Jodie: Yeah. Okay. I would say first and foremost, nothing’s irreversible and I know some people come in, particularly coming from a allopathic medical background would probably want to jump on me right now and say, you can’t say that.

There are a whole lot of cases out there that, you know, books, testimonies talks, where people have shared their experiences of spontaneous healing, or they’ve come back from conditioning. You know, they’ve had near death experiences and I’m not suggesting just rely on the fact that even if it gets to your worst and you’ll pull it around in the end.

That’s not what I’m saying. What I am saying is first and foremost, nothing’s irreversible. And if right now, You’re not so far down the path that you’ve had some sort of scary diagnosis address it sooner rather than later, because it’s not about stopping, doing everything that you enjoy with your life.

It’s the opposite of that. It’s finding more enjoyment from life by having the energy and having the clarity and having that sense of self-assuredness that you are in control of your life. There are resources out there available for people. And one of the things that we’re trying to do with health freedom revolution is make sure it’s as easy and accessible as possible.

It’s all going to be online. Um, you know, mostly online. We possibly, when things saw themselves out a little bit, a bit further down the line, we might do some, um, meet up kind of events for those that are based in the UK, but anybody, and everybody’s welcome to join knows. Um, We’re building an online community.

So if you have specific questions and you know, you want to plan a search, then access such as our resources or have a look, you know, there, there are many other health fitness, mental health. Counseling, energetic healers, alternative healers. There’s all sorts of online. We that’s one thing that is good about the information age, anything and everything you could possibly want it’s out there.

So if you’ve already set the intention, you want change, you’re ready for change. The sooner you start to look into that, you’ll be guided to the information that’s most effective for you. It’ll resonate with you just set the intention. Yeah. The resources will start to pop up in places and you’re like, oh yeah, that’s what I think.

And I need to do some yoga. Oh yeah. Now, you know, that that’s exactly what I were hoping. I was going to be able to find out about, you know, whatever Kito, diet, whatever. So, you know, see what resonates with you, make it focus, make it a priority. And for those that have possibly had some really scary, so a diagnosis.

You don’t want to just simply accept what has been told to here from that one person lift your spirits. First and foremost, there’s a book called the biology of her by an called nom and cousins. Have a look at that. I got a copy of that. Have a read of that, just renewed what the testimonies are and the care studies are in that that’s going to help shifting state straight away just to know that what’s possible.

What’s available. I would absolutely recommend getting more in alignment with the true essence of who and what you are because our bodies are designed to heal themselves. It’s the fact that we’re out of alignment a lot of the time, and that has a lot to do with. What we are putting in our systems, what we are being bombarded with.

They act as blockages and disturbances. So if you can clean your system out detoxify and start to feed, not just your body, but your mind with more positive messaging, you’d be astonished at just how remarkably we can recover from. I would say anything, but, you know, just as a disclaimer, that pretty much everything, anything, so, yeah.

That’s my thoughts on it, Jeremiah and I, with anything you would like to add to that?

[00:57:49] Jeremiah: Um, not really. Just that. Yeah. You can reverse, uh, any diagnosed, well, not any diagnosis, but a lot of. Diagnosis is that you get can be corrected. You just a look at it and what you need to do. Reverse, whatever damage was done.

Like I said, with my brother, uh, just by changing his eating habits, he was able to drop two medications. So it is definitely possible. And hopefully by eating better myself, that I can reverse any damage on my liver that was done from poor eating before. Yeah, it’s definitely possible. So we’ll wrap it up here.

I’ll make sure to put your organization and links and everything in the show notes. So people can easily access that and get a hold of your organization if they need help. Hopefully don’t be afraid to reach out to someone to get counsel or any type of advice that you need. Um, you won’t be uncooled by reaching out for help.

So. Hmm. Thank you so much for coming on and talking about this.

[00:59:03] Jodie: Ah, thank you. Thank you for having me. I’ve really enjoyed it and yeah. Thank you for sharing the information as well. .

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