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Aliens and UFOs Roundtable
[00:00:00] Jeremiah: Hello, my fellow Terrestrials coming to you from an RV deep in the Carolina Mountains. Welcome to the What If They’re Wrong podcast. The podcast that wants you to question everything. Your reality is about to be shattered.
Hello and welcome to the What of the Wrong podcast, the podcast that wants you to question everything. Um, I’m joined today by the group, our paranormal group, . We got Tori from Be Afraid of the Dark Podcast, Eleanor Wagner and Jeremy Bryant. And we’re gonna be talking about UFOs Aliens. And all that good stuff.
So hang around, take a listen. I’ll introduce ’em now. What’s up guys? Hey.
[00:01:04] Eleanor: Hey. How you doing? How’s going?
[00:01:07] Jeremiah: Thank you everyone for coming on and uh, doing this round table. Of course,
[00:01:11] Tori: of course, of
[00:01:12] Jeremy: course. Thank you so much for having Oh my God. If I could talk about aliens taking over earth, I’m down for it any day of the week,
Oh
[00:01:20] Tori: hell yeah. Always aliens about forte.
[00:01:24] Jeremiah: Yeah, I love aliens, ancient aliens, all that stuff. And the alien abduction stuff. I’m sure we’ll get into all that.
[00:01:31] Tori: All that just from ancient Aliens is literally coming to my town, , the like TV
[00:01:37] Jeremiah: shows. Oh, nice. Yeah, I’ve seen ’em live twice.
[00:01:40] Tori: I saw that earlier and I’m like, what
I thought it was ironic that we were doing this today and I saw that .
[00:01:46] Jeremiah: Yeah, they do their tour now and um, I went to it, I was able to meet like all the guys, all the cast and it was pretty cool. Yeah,
[00:01:56] Jeremy: I saw that picture of the guy with the guy with the crazy hair when he’s with David Duney and the one pitcher, which is
[00:02:01] Jeremiah: perfect.
Oh yes.
[00:02:02] Tori: Perfect. Don’t get me started on my David Duney
[00:02:05] Jeremiah: man. I actually reached out to David Duchovny’s agent or whatever and asked if he would like come on the show for a half hour or something. Just talk about X-files.
[00:02:14] Tori: Oh, that would be cool, dude. That would be,
[00:02:16] Jeremiah: I haven’t heard anything
[00:02:17] Tori: back, but I would fangirl so hard.
I am so in love with David De Company. It’s not even funny.
[00:02:26] Jeremiah: like, it’s bad. I’m just gonna keep, I’m gonna keep, uh, emailing him and just pester ’em until they finally are like, okay,
[00:02:32] Tori: oh, eventually I’ll have
[00:02:34] Jeremiah: to come on. Or they block me, one or the other. ,
[00:02:38] Jeremy: we
[00:02:38] Tori: want to believe
[00:02:42] Jeremiah: and then a friend at work. Um, Knows the guys, um, his conspiracy guys from the exile show.
There’s like two or three guys that he always concerns with. Oh,
[00:02:54] Jeremy: the the lone gunman?
[00:02:55] Jeremiah: Yeah. Yeah, the lone gunman. Ah, so I’m gonna try to reach out to them too.
[00:03:00] Jeremy: Are they, I mean, are they all still alive? Even? I,
[00:03:03] Jeremiah: I don’t know. I I hope so.
[00:03:06] Tori: Please don’t burst my bubble. They won’t tell me they’re dead. I would cry
[00:03:10] Jeremy: I mean, the one, the one bald guy was like older at the, even in the nineties he looked older.
[00:03:15] Jeremiah: Yeah, I’m not sure, but it would be cool if I could get ahold of him.
[00:03:19] Tori: That would be amazing. I’d like
[00:03:22] Eleanor: to try and get Whitley Strayer
[00:03:23] Jeremiah: online. Yeah, that would be awesome too.
[00:03:26] Tori: Yeah, my husband’s already stated he’d leave me for s.
So
[00:03:30] Jeremiah: real. I’m just waiting for, I definitely had a crush on Scully when that show was airing. It
[00:03:36] Tori: was kind of nice when we were both watching it cuz I could crush on Molder and he could crush on Scully and it worked out perfect. .
[00:03:42] Jeremy: Oh. That’s what me and my wife do. Supernatural. She crushes on Sam, my crush on Dean
[00:03:47] Tori: Aw. Romantic.
[00:03:51] Jeremy: Hey, I don’t care what anyone says. I got news for
[00:03:52] Eleanor: you guys. She’s older than I am, I think.
[00:03:56] Jeremy: Oh, she is? Yeah. I mean she’s, she’s definitely up there now. She’s, but she’s still mm-hmm. . I mean she’s Hollywood. She looks like she’s still 30 something.
[00:04:04] Jeremiah: Yeah. Did you see the reboot? The reboot was actually pretty good.
[00:04:09] Jeremy: Oh, the 2016 2018 thing they did. Yeah. David Duchovny dancing to country music is one of the best things ever. .
[00:04:18] Tori: I’m just, and I will say that I wish that that show could just be on forever. That’s one of those that I wish could just keep going.
[00:04:25] Jeremiah: Hmm. Well, what I was hoping is that they had those like, uh, young detectives or whatever.
I was hoping they would like kind of pass the torch and keep it going. Yeah, yeah. Like a spinoff, but they never did . Yeah. Just kinda like, yeah, molder and Scully retire and the young people take over.
God,
[00:04:43] Jeremy: that shot. Uh, I mean, I, I just want them,
[00:04:47] Eleanor: they could have always come back for consultations and stuff and make guest appearances on it every once in a while.
It’s
[00:04:52] Jeremy: funny, I was just talking about this on a freaking, we were, we were doing, I, we were doing a breakdown the episode home of X-Files with the, uh, peacock clan. And like I was, I was literally just talking about like, they need to do a reboot kind of with younger people playing the roles of the agents, but have, have them do cameos every once in a while, like on big cases.
Or have the smoking man do a cameo be still alive. Like, I worry
[00:05:16] Eleanor: about reboots nowadays because when they take something and they reboot it, they usually screw it up. Oh yeah. They, they usually end up, you know, . I don’t know. Uh, it, it being, getting, getting the whole woke version in there. Well, and it just kind of really just pisses me off.
[00:05:32] Jeremy: So it, it’s 50 50. I mean, the Wonder Years reboot was good. Uh, it’s the only one I can think of right now, , but I know there’s more. Again, I mean that, that night 90 show was pretty damn good. And like that’s a Yeah, I
[00:05:44] Tori: was just gonna say that. Right. I’m just waiting. I’m over here waiting for the new criminal minds to come out.
I mean, I know that it’s like restarting and it’s with basically all the same people, but besides my boy. But it’s fine. . I don’t know why they wouldn’t allow Spencer in there. It’s fine. I’ll get over it. But that’s also my show. . He’s not gonna be in there. No, I was so mad. Oh, everybody else is there. So like, I’m okay.
But like that was my, He’s my, he’s my favorite. But it makes sense because of how the final episode ended. So I’m just gonna, I’m gonna take it for what it is. Oh boy. And
[00:06:25] Eleanor: just
[00:06:28] Tori: and like Husa.
[00:06:30] Jeremiah: I’ll be fine. Yeah. The worst is when you like watch a show and it doesn’t end. Or like the ending isn’t good and then it’s like, I just wasted all this time
Yeah.
[00:06:42] Eleanor: No, don’t get me started with that. Me, when we talk about Game of Thrones, oh, we can talk about
[00:06:46] Tori: Dexter ending of Game of Thrones was
[00:06:49] Eleanor: Medium Ghost Whisperer. I mean, there’s just, you lost Yeah. Just ridiculous. So, because I think
[00:06:54] Jeremiah: sometimes they try to stretch it out when they should just end it. So they just keep it going and going and,
[00:07:00] Tori: well, it’s just like, I’ll be done watching Gray’s Anatomy when they do the next episode, cuz there’s literally no point in watching it if there’s no Meredith Gray.
So, oh
[00:07:10] Jeremiah: yeah, I heard about that.
[00:07:12] Tori: The, what’s the point of watching Gray’s Anatomy with no Meredith Gray.
[00:07:16] Jeremiah: It’s kind of the name of the show. ,
[00:07:19] Jeremy: then you, they need to end that show anyway. It’s been going for like 20 years. It seems
[00:07:23] Tori: long. 18 sir. 18 .
[00:07:26] Jeremy: Like that’s just ridiculous for a medical show to go that long.
Like even a yard didn’t go that long. And that’s a more generic
[00:07:32] Tori: show and it was a G but it is a good show. I will give them, give them credit for it being a good show. But I just, if I can’t, I can’t do it anymore. Nope.
[00:07:42] Jeremy: Done. I couldn’t get into whatever, couldn’t get into it. It took
[00:07:44] Tori: me a really long time and then
[00:07:47] Eleanor: I, I never saw an episode of that either.
Seriously, .
[00:07:51] Tori: It took me years to finally like get into it and be like, okay, just do it. And I was like, ah, shit. What did I get myself into?
[00:07:59] Jeremy: Now if they bring back house, then we’ll be good.
[00:08:02] Tori: Oh, house still want XFiles back the most. I’ll rewatch it any
[00:08:07] Jeremiah: day. Yeah, definitely XFiles and more. I want X-Files.
[00:08:11] Jeremy: Supernatural crossover. That’s why just one big event. Oh, do That’d be crossover. .
[00:08:16] Jeremiah: That would be
[00:08:17] Tori: awesome. That that would be epic .
[00:08:21] Jeremiah: Yeah, it would. So yeah, let’s get into the whole alien thing. Um, so the first question I have, and you can answer it as you choose, with the recent government release of U F O documents and uh, re saying UFOs are real, what do you take from that?
What do you think? Do you think, um, they’re like they can’t hide it anymore? Or do you think they’re trying to like, you know, kind of divert us or, I don’t know the word for it, but Yeah. What do you think the motives are behind distraction?
[00:08:58] Eleanor: Are you trying to think distraction? Is
[00:08:59] Jeremiah: that the way? Yeah, kinda like a distraction.
[00:09:03] Jeremy: Mm. I mean, it was already a distraction from, from
[00:09:06] Tori: Covid. It we’re supposed to be, but I was just gonna say the same thing. They released it during the middle of Covid when nobody but didn’t work. actually. Yeah. But nobody was supposed to be paying attention. Did it? Did it happen And it came outta nowhere where the Pentagon just releases.
Oh yeah. UFOs are real. And then it’s just like nobody talked about it cuz there was Covid.
[00:09:29] Eleanor: I don’t know if it happened in the middle of Covid. I think it, cuz Trump announced it and I think it was just before Covid hit because I remember when he came out and he said he was releasing it. That there were,
[00:09:40] Tori: um, I remember an actual Post Pentagon, Pentagon, Pentagon document being released during Covid though, if I remember correct.
I remember my hus, my husband, maybe that was maybe thing. And he’s like, do you see this? And that might have been the
[00:09:54] Eleanor: continuation cuz that might have been the continuation because Trump is the one who released it during the beginning of his presidency. He was, he was finally like, well, I think they officially, you know, I’m, I’m, I’m
[00:10:06] Jeremiah: letting you know, I think they officially came out and said that.
they are real. Like they don’t know what they are like during Covid because I remember thinking like this is a perfect time for ’em to put it out. No one’s really paying attention. Mm-hmm cuz they’re too worried about the covid stuff and lockdowns
[00:10:23] Tori: and nobody’s by decide are aliens real or not . But yeah, to like answer that, I don’t know.
I think it’s like an uh, it’s really iffy because I mean just in 2013 there and it’s what we’re not even to February yet. And there’s already been a crap ton of sightings just in general of UFOs more than what is normal. And I think that they’re releasing it in a sense because, no, they cannot hide it anymore.
But also I think it could be a distraction. Distraction from something bigger. But what is that something bigger? Is it more pertaining to aliens? Is it not? Oh,
[00:11:08] Jeremy: I mean, it’s the aliens that are in the government already just freaking like, all right, let’s give ’em this little tidbit to get ’em off our backs.
We’re here 50
[00:11:14] Tori: years when we already knew UFOs were real. So it’s not like they had to tell us like, when we can look up in the sky and clearly see something that is not of this world, like we’re not stupid.
[00:11:26] Eleanor: Well, I can say it’s about fricking time. Duh.
[00:11:29] Jeremy: Now, now if they submit that um, Sasquatch and Dogmen are reel, then I’ll be happy.
I’m just saying
[00:11:36] Jeremiah: and um, well, they could be releasing the info and kind of making it known cuz they know something is coming. That could be a possibility. I
[00:11:47] Jeremy: mean, the prob
[00:11:48] Eleanor: the problem with that. When everybody says, oh, something’s coming, and oh, something’s gonna happen. Oh, it’s gonna happen. Just wait. You know, it’s, it’s gonna happen.
And I’ve been waiting for something to happen. I’ve been waiting for something to happen. Now with this whole, even in this whole covid stuff, for the duration of that, I’ve been waiting for something to happen and nothing’s
[00:12:07] Tori: happened. So it’s, I could literally stand in my backyard and be like, aliens abduct me.
Like I’m content. Take me. Come on, I’m here. I’m ready. Yeah. Like, where are you?
[00:12:18] Jeremy: If you haven’t, you seen Independence Day? If you’re willing, they kill you. .
[00:12:23] Tori: Ah, well at least go out by an alien.
[00:12:26] Jeremiah: Uh, yeah. I remember Independence Day. That was such a good movie. .
[00:12:31] Jeremy: Oh amazing. Amazing movie. Amazing movie.
[00:12:34] Eleanor: Yeah. It was really good.
Mm-hmm. .
[00:12:37] Jeremiah: With that being said, What do you think about UFOs during, like war times or hanging around nuclear power plants and stuff like that, or natural disasters? What do you think about, um, their connection with that kind of stuff?
[00:12:56] Jeremy: Uh, I mean, we, everybody knows it happens. I mean, everybody knows that they’re spotted near nuclear plants and they’re spotted near water always,
[00:13:05] Tori: which, yeah, they always congregate over water.
[00:13:07] Eleanor: That’s, you took the words right outta my mouth about the water. Yeah, always over water.
[00:13:10] Jeremy: I mean, they definitely built bases underwater, like before humans even existed, I think, or at least some of them did. And they’re just chilling down there and that’s why people see ’em to shoot outta the water sometimes or slowly go into or just fly into the water.
It’s weird, but I mean, and again, we don’t explore the oceans for a reason. Right.
[00:13:30] Jeremiah: Yeah. Yeah. They say we only know like what 5% of the ocean .
[00:13:36] Tori: We know more about the human brain than we do about the ocean, and that’s terrifying , to be honest. I wish it is like That’s true. Really terrifying. Imagine if
[00:13:45] Eleanor: we did explore it more, we’d probably not find anything anyway because they’re so advanced and able to, um, keep us from discovering whatever it is they are doing.
[00:13:57] Tori: I don’t know. Yeah, they, but I’m pretty content not seeing that fish with the little light bulb above his head. Like, I’m, I’m good. I don’t need to go down in the ocean. else. I’ll look at pictures.
[00:14:06] Jeremy: They’re
[00:14:07] Jeremiah: cool. Yeah, they definitely have some creepy looking fish down there.
[00:14:11] Tori: I see. I’ve always wondered if aliens hang about like during natural disasters, like do you think they’re the ones that cause like, have a sense in causing them or do you think that they’re waiting to see how we respond?
[00:14:29] Jeremy: Oh, you, you took the words right. My mouth on that one took the words right
[00:14:32] Tori: my mouth. Like how do we respond to this as like, um, a nation? Like are they like almost like judging how we are in a sense?
[00:14:46] Jeremiah: Yeah, it’s a good question. Um, and that also goes into the global zoo theory, I think it’s called, where like we’re basically a zoo for aliens and they kind of just observe us, ,
[00:15:02] Tori: or were their prisoners.
Yeah. Right. Jeremy, I, I was
[00:15:05] Jeremy: that’s, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, I’m like, Tory, isn’t that kind of like my theory?
[00:15:09] Tori: Yeah, but yours is a little bit darker. We’re just prisoners, , we don’t get along with them, so they just keep us here so they can keep watch on us along with Bigfoot.
[00:15:19] Jeremy: If there’s, if they’re smart, that’s what’s exactly what they’re freaking doing.
Come on now. Humans are not meant to be interacting with all their species. Look what we do to the goddamn beer bear and deer populations. Come on now. This is facts.
[00:15:35] Eleanor: We are the worst
[00:15:36] Jeremiah: animal alive. And that begs the question, were we really made for this planet? Or are we genetically modified
[00:15:45] Tori: facts? Were we put here by something else?
Like,
[00:15:49] Jeremiah: because I mean, we don’t really flow with the natural order of things. We like overproduce over fish. Need clothing . We can’t stay outside or we’ll get sunburn. It’s like, or wet freeze to death. Yeah. Or we’ll freeze
[00:16:06] Tori: the death. The elements will kill
[00:16:08] Jeremiah: us. It’s kind of like we’re not really suited for this planet.
Yeah,
[00:16:14] Tori: exactly. So where
[00:16:15] Jeremiah: are we from? Yeah. There’s theories we were put here. Um, And there’s theories of like, you know, the annachi and that they genetically spliced our primitive primates or whatever, and, um, made us . That’s a theory we love. A good
[00:16:37] Jeremy: theory, I believe. I mean, it makes, it makes sense. I mean, I mean I, I was always, I believed in evolution for freaking years that it was a hundred percent a chance of what ha the one thing that could have happened.
Like, but the more I think about it, it’s just like, uh, is it really like the probability that we would evolve to this perfect, uh, species to live on a planet by nature? Just doing it itself is kind of weird. Like I don’t see it happening really that way. So, I mean, at least that’s me personally. But
[00:17:11] Jeremiah: now I have another theory that’s kind of crazy too is, uh, bring it on.
alias and UFOs are the debuggers of the simulation that we live in. They basically come in fix stuff or change stuff. Kind of like if you’re playing Sim City or The Sims, you can like change things . What if they’re like here to do that? Because a lot of people are saying that we live in a simulation, so it would make sense.
[00:17:45] Jeremy: Oh, the matrix theory is very real.
[00:17:48] Jeremiah: So maybe they come in and make sure like we don’t self-destruct ourselves or that, yeah. Or to observe us or fix things that are wrong.
[00:18:00] Tori: But I mean, it would make sense why aliens abduct air quote, they gotta check on us, see what’s going on.
[00:18:08] Jeremiah: Yeah. That was gonna be one of my questions too, is.
What do you guys think of the alien abduction phenomenon? Like what are they trying to do? What’s their purpose
[00:18:19] Tori: there? There’s so many different like theories as to what it could be. Are, are they literally just examining us because we’re a different species? Um, that’s, yeah. That’s why I gonna say too observing us because they put us here and they need to keep their eye on us and make sure that everything’s still and smooth.
Is there on the same alien
[00:18:41] Eleanor: that’s doing it or is this all different kinds that are doing the
[00:18:44] Tori: abductions? Because like, who knows? We don’t know how many different types of alien species there could be. Do you also know that when, um, a pregnant woman, like when she’s pregnant, she has like a more than likely chance of experiencing alien phenomenon, just like she has more of an experience of experiencing supernatural phenomenon?
No, I never heard
[00:19:06] Eleanor: that. That’s interesting.
[00:19:08] Jeremiah: I actually interviewed two. Different women who were both abducted while they were pregnant. So I totally believe that
[00:19:17] Tori: it’s a, they want, they wanna see like what’s happening.
[00:19:21] Jeremiah: Yeah. They seem really focused on the reproduction and the Yeah. Um, you know, not just women, but like men too.
I’ve heard of them extracting sperm and stuff like that. They seem to have, like, from the things I’ve read that they have like interactions where they’re like, tell the person, Hey, you gotta hold this baby. And the baby’s like a half human, half alien type creature. And so it seems like,
[00:19:53] Eleanor: so you think that they’re messing with the baby’s
DNA
[00:19:55] Tori: and incorporating, oh, a hundred percent.
There has to be on this, on this planet. There has to be. So did these
[00:20:01] Eleanor: women, did these women ever say that there was anything strange about their babies?
[00:20:06] Jeremiah: Not like, strange in the sense of like, they look. Weird or anything, but like both of them said that their children were like more advanced, so they like learned faster than their peers and stuff like that.
That gives me like a
[00:20:22] Jeremy: weird theory. I knew Alien baby, I knew
[00:20:24] Tori: it. , it gives me like a weird theory. So, you know how like they say like, oh, if people like use their brains, they can like unlock like, you know, like telesis and like, you know, all of that kind of stuff. Well, what if it’s not really that and it’s more of the fact of it’s alien dna.
What if that’s like stuff that they know how to do, like telesis and like the pyro kinetics or I think that’s what it’s called, or whatever it is, the fire one. What if that’s like okay stuff like aliens can do. I don’t know. I said it’s a theory. Like I, I could be completely wrong, but it What if it is?
Well, no, I,
[00:21:01] Jeremy: it’s called Pyrosis one, Carrie two. Um, I mean, I don’t
[00:21:05] Tori: know. I didn’t know. I couldn’t remember what it was called.
[00:21:09] Jeremy: It’s, uh, I mean there, I mean there are star seeds that exist on Earth, and there’s a lot of them, and I’ve, I mean, I’ve interviewed five or six at least, and they all claim that they are alien spirits and human bodies.
But whether there’s more to it than that, in a way, what if, I mean, and star Ss are also more commonly abducted, so I mean, kind of seems like that. I mean, even Barney and Betty Hill case back in the sixties, forties, fifties, whatever it was like, they, they, everything that happened, like a lot of the stereotypes come from that.
Like they extracted Barney Hilly, they extract, they, they tested her genetic stuff too with Betty. Like you could hear in the tapes, like them talking about it, like them screaming in pain while it’s happening. It’s disturbing almost. Yeah.
[00:22:01] Jeremiah: Yeah. It makes you wonder. And then there’s. You know, theories that they’re making a hybrid race so that when we get wiped out, they can repopulate the earth.
[00:22:09] Tori: Well, they’re smarter than us, obviously.
[00:22:12] Jeremy: Well, doesn’t take much true . The human race. The human race is not the most intelligent race. Uh, social media proves that every day.
[00:22:23] Tori: You’re totally right on that one. Oh yeah. Join a flat earth group on Facebook and you’ll learn real quick. My husband can attest to that
[00:22:32] Jeremiah: one.
But yeah, the aliens, um, I guess that’ll lead into the next thing is what do you think about the whole ancient alien hypothesis, I guess you call it, or theory?
[00:22:47] Jeremy: Oh, I mean, it’s the whole ancient alien thing. I mean, they had all these gods that they worshiped in the ancient cultures, and what if they were just aliens coming down from space?
Like what if that’s all they wore where aliens coming down from space and that’s why they could fly, or that’s why they had. cherry, it’s pulled by goats and whatnot. Like, I mean, that’s, it makes sense. Really. It does. There’s too many stories out there for there not
[00:23:11] Tori: to make sense. Well, it makes a lot of sense.
Especially for like, uh, like, for like Zeus and like, um, Thor and stuff
[00:23:20] Eleanor: that they helped to build the pyramids. And I interviewed somebody recently who made the connection. A lot of connections to UFOs in the Bible too. Like references to it that they feel is UFOs. Well, yeah,
[00:23:34] Jeremy: angels, angel, angels in the Bible.
A lot of people sp like think are aliens possibly. that they’re just wing aliens or something like along those lines. There’s
[00:23:43] Jeremiah: definitely a lot of reference to things that might seem alien. Like the Ezekiel’s wheel. They always talk about like fiery clouds or whatever coming down, not just in the Bible, but like Indian, ancient Indian scriptures and South American scriptures and stuff like that,
[00:24:03] Eleanor: right?
They, they, they were, look, they were looking up. What were they looking up at?
[00:24:07] Jeremy: I, I mean, ancient aliens things I believe. I mean, and actually when I watched the day that actually des, I watched something the other day that was like, this alien space station is part of earth, and like when they put the crust of earth over it, the pyramids are like parts of the station that stick out.
I forget what the hell I was watching. Was it? Oh my God, what TV show was I watching when they did that? Like they actually made so much sense. I was like, oh my god. I . No, it was
[00:24:41] Jeremiah: Take your brain targeted lanis.
[00:24:44] Jeremy: I, I watched, I I haven’t even watching that much lately. What the hell was it? I don’t know. Oh my God, it wasn’t that long ago.
Oh my God.
[00:24:55] Jeremiah: Well, there’s also that theory of the moon being like a extraterrestrial base.
[00:25:00] Jeremy: Yes. It’s hollow. I mean, they shot missile at it and it freaking rang and vibrate for like
[00:25:06] Tori: 10, 12 minutes. Yeah. I mean, we talked about that on your, your, uh, conspiracy podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yep. I couldn’t think of the word.
I’m like cons con conspiracy, but I didn’t wanna sound like an idiot while I was trying to say it. Yeah. I mean, with aliens, I swear you never know. You ne I you never really do what We don’t know anything like us personally, we don’t know, but there’s somebody that knows. There’s people that don’t want us to know.
Is there a reason? I mean, no, I don’t think so. I just think
[00:25:42] Jeremy: that, oh, there’s a reason. If you think there’s really not a smoking man sitting in the Pentagon somewhere in Washington telling them what to tell people, like you’re outta your mind.
[00:25:51] Tori: Oh, there, there is somebody there. There’s just, there’s a, there’s some reason they’re not telling us.
But also like, bro, I wanna know, tell me, well, if you
[00:26:03] Eleanor: remember in the fifties when the radio broadcast scared the people so much that someone actually ended up taking, yeah. Orson Wells and that whole debacle, people were actually taking their lives because they were terrified of being invaded by aliens.
So I think that that was the start of them keeping it all hidden from the public because they were afraid of what people would do to themselves.
[00:26:31] Jeremy: I just saw that. But what if that was a test by like the aliens and the government to like test the. People and see what happens if they try to mimic it.
[00:26:40] Tori: So that would make a lot of sense.
Well,
[00:26:42] Eleanor: they failed big time.
[00:26:45] Jeremy: Well, the human rights fails a lot, but
[00:26:47] Jeremiah: yeah, there’s a lot of stuff, um, a lot of people say that there’s stuff underneath the Vatican and stuff like that where they have, you know, the truth, quote
[00:26:57] Tori: unquote. Oh yeah. There’s so much stuff that apparently the Vatican holds. Yeah.
[00:27:02] Jeremiah: And they’re, you know what’s weird, the Vatican’s in Italy, but it’s its own like country, basically.
Oh yeah. You go on a
[00:27:10] Tori: trip, , oh, go to the
[00:27:12] Jeremy: Vatican guys, you get arrested. If you try to go to Nevada again, you’re not allowed. Like they, oh yeah, it’s insane. There’s miles and miles and libraries underneath there that would shed so much light on everything in history that we wanna know about. But no
[00:27:27] Tori: one’s allowed down there.
Doesn’t mean I still wanna try. Can James Bond this shit mi
[00:27:32] Eleanor: missing, missing peop pieces of the Bible that they didn’t release, all that
[00:27:37] Tori: stuff. Oh yeah. There’s a whole lot that they say that’s, that’s down there. That would I think would make a lot of sense when you would put it together. But again, that’s bringing like religion into it.
So that’s like ev every religion hides a little. Some, some.
[00:27:55] Jeremy: Well I mean, but it doesn’t really bring religion into it even cuz guess who controlled the world for the first 1900 years of civilization, religions. So, I mean they had the power to hide everything they wanted to hide cuz they were the government and religion at the same time.
Like for 19, 40, 50 something years.
[00:28:16] Eleanor: Total control. Total
[00:28:17] Jeremy: control. Yeah. It’s ridiculous. It’s, I mean, it’s just .
[00:28:23] Jeremiah: And going back to what Tori said about the DNA and stuff, um, yeah, what’s the stop. Aliens if they created us as that theory is, um, what’s to say that they didn’t put like, stoppages in the DNA strands or whatever.
So like, we have those powers, but they’re like blocked, kind of like if you write computer code, you can block out, you know, certain things. You don’t want to like be present or show
[00:28:50] Tori: you. Well, it would just, honestly, it would make a lot of sense because they say like, oh, certain people can like tap into these powers apparently.
Like the human mind can do this. They say, oh, well, the human mind could potentially communicate like how dolphins do. Like, okay. Um, one how, um, two, I wanna move shit with my mind. Like, that sounds like a great time. I mean, it, it’d be great to like, that sounds cool as hell.
[00:29:21] Jeremy: It, it’d be, it’d be great to be able to be able to smoke a cigarette and like,
[00:29:24] Tori: just like light your finger on fire.
Just, no, not,
[00:29:28] Jeremy: I mean, the whole human torch thing. That’d be kind of cool too. But I mean there’s, I
[00:29:32] Tori: mean, come on exiles episode. Let’s, good episode . No,
[00:29:40] Jeremy: no, but put it this way. All the mediums and psychics I talk to, they say you have to meditate to unlock that part of your mind. And you have to meditate and meditate until like you feel like something’s clicking your head.
And what if though, what if meditating is a way of communicating with the aliens? Our alien over lords. So what if after we communicate with them long enough, they trust us enough to unlock our head, and they hit like a little unlock button on their computer and we can all of a sudden do things?
[00:30:11] Tori: I mean, you’re not wrong.
I like that. That sounds like it could be very plausible. I mean, I meditate, but I guess, I guess I don’t meditate hard enough. I mean, maybe I should work on that. Maybe I should like look up alien meditation methods and like see what I’ve come across. . We’ll be able to, I’m sure there’re, I’ll be able to hack into these powers and I’ll come back and be like, guys, I found it.
[00:30:38] Jeremiah: Oh wait, I, well, I’ve heard of. I’ve heard of people saying that you can like manifest UFOs or manifest aliens. Um, so I, it is probably, it’s out there if you wanted to find out
[00:30:51] Tori: how to do it, homie. I’ve been trying to manifest money for a long time. It’s still not happening. , . If I could start manifesting the UFOs and they started appearing, then apparently the money just ain’t happening for me.
So I’ll start trying with the UFOs, see what happens. , see where I get with that.
[00:31:10] Jeremiah: Yeah, I think there was a video, I think there was a video of some guy in like Africa, I don’t know what country or whatever, but um, I think it was showing him like manifesting at ufo and I don’t know how real or fake it is, but I definitely saw a video of that where the guy’s like, yeah, the UFO’s gonna come up over the tree or whatever.
And sure enough it did . Hmm.
[00:31:33] Tori: Interesting. Never know of the internet anymore. What’s real and what’s fake, but Well, yeah. Oh yeah, they, it could, it could be real. And then you never know. That’s something is like, trust me, I, I’m, I’m,
[00:31:46] Jeremy: I was just talk, go ahead. I’ll say like, I’m the, I’m the admin and, uh, like, uh, one of the bigfoot groups out there, because the guy liked my podcast so much, he wanted to make me an admin.
I was like, okay. But I like the, the amount of posts that come through a day trying to be like, say like, these are videos and pictures of like Bigfoot or something. It’s ridiculous. Like, I, I literally just declined some of the posts cause it’s just like, that’s so fake. Like, I’m not even you, you’re, you’re gonna start, you’re gonna start World War III in this group.
No, no. .
[00:32:17] Tori: Oh, speaking. You just said Bigfoot. Um, so that video, um, Jeremiah, you were talking about, about the guy who is like kill killed all of a sudden after he found Bigfoot or whatever. Well, I ended up finally stumbling across, said video on Reddit. And I guess that it gets, it keeps getting taken down. Oh yeah.
The
[00:32:40] Jeremiah: guy who saw like the giant on the mountain side, and
[00:32:42] Tori: I finally, and I finally found it and saw it and sent it to Britney and I, she’s like, oh, thank God I saw this because it keeps getting taken down anywhere. It gets put up. I was like, Ooh, that’s sketchy. Yeah. What are they trying
[00:32:57] Jeremiah: to hide?
[00:32:57] Eleanor: What’s, what’s that one?
That’s the one about the giant? Is that the one you’re talking about?
[00:33:01] Jeremiah: Yeah, that’s, yeah. The guy filmed like a giant on the mountain side, and then he disappeared like a day after, A week
[00:33:06] Tori: after or something. Yeah. Just all of a sudden gone. I know
[00:33:09] Jeremy: about the Giant, but I never heard about the guy that saw it.
But
[00:33:13] Jeremiah: yeah, the video, well, like she said, it’s, I just happened to see it, but it always gets taken down, like she
[00:33:19] Tori: said, like it’s up for like not that long, and then it’s like, bam, it’s gone. You can’t find it. And then somehow somebody else, whoever has it, puts it back up again. It recirculates and then somehow gets taken down and it keeps going in a cycle.
And I found out the same thing when I was, uh, When Brittany and I were researching for like our missing four 11 cases that, um, sites get taken down on cases that relate to missing four 11 s and that’s also pretty sketchy as well. And that doesn’t make sense cause that’s a real person’s life. Why are you taking away their case?
So it’s starting to get weird cuz Reddit sites were like, don’t know how long this is gonna be up, but here’s this. And there you go. I came back like a day later and the site’s gone. The whole forum’s gone. Dang. It’s insane. So it’s like, who is taking this stuff down? What are we not supposed to know?
[00:34:16] Jeremiah: Yeah.
And then, um, what if a lot of these missing people are just being taken by aliens?
[00:34:22] Tori: That’s my theory is that they’re getting taken by aliens. And I had a story that made so much sense, or
[00:34:29] Eleanor: somebody’s trying to shut them up anyway.
[00:34:31] Tori: Yeah, I have Or they’re, oh, go ahead. .
[00:34:35] Jeremy: Well, I mean the missing four one are main, are mainly hunters and stuff who are in the middle of the woods.
To me that more screams, Sasquatch, dogmen, take your pick of crypted to live in the woods.
[00:34:47] Tori: And I mean, it’s just, yeah, but some of them it doesn’t make sense because if we re go back to Sasquatch and Cryptids, um, remember how they take care of their own? What if they take care of these people and the ones that are refound in these places that actually have no idea what happened.
What if they were literally like, helped by said cryptids? If they took them in, took care of them, and then just dropped them back in their same spot or in a different spot and left them, um,
[00:35:19] Jeremy: I mean was one theory or, or the bigfoots are kidnapping them, giving them to the aliens. Take, keep them in like holding cages so the aliens come back down and take ’em, and then when they come back down the Bigfoot knock ’em on the head one time, they forget everything.
[00:35:34] Tori: There’s that because like the case I just did was like covering a guy who went missing for 14 months, like he was on the lake shore skiing, turned around, couldn’t find his footprints anymore, so he went walking, blacked out and awoke 14 months later in the middle of a forest and not his clothing with a backpack, uh, running shoes and glasses that weren’t his in 700 miles away from where he was last.
Like where he was, he was in off the shore of Lake Michigan and he was found 700 miles away in Massachusetts in the middle of a forest.
[00:36:22] Jeremy: I, I mean that right. That’s wild. That right there sounds like a guy with a drinking problem that’s just has a, that has a second family in Massachusetts,
[00:36:30] Tori: negative.
Because what was really weird about it is like he was walking the opposite way back to like where he think he came from, but there was only one set of footprints and that was going towards the water. It did. It doesn’t make, yeah, the story doesn’t make sense. Screams alien abduction to me or alternate universe.
[00:36:50] Jeremiah: Yeah. You do hear about, you do hear about that like guys out night fishing or whatever and they get abducted or you know, driving in your car and you get abducted all that missing time. Well, what if sometimes the aliens don’t bring them back? They’re like, Nope, nope. They’re not going back. . No, we’re gonna
[00:37:09] Tori: keep you.
We like you.
[00:37:10] Jeremy: Yeah. I mean it’s, I don’t know, it’s weird. I mean, sometimes I think the aliens are just drunk or high off something themselves and they’re just adopting human for fun. Like it’s literally just a sport to see who can get the
[00:37:23] Tori: most. Like aliens
[00:37:24] Jeremiah: on shrooms? , like uh oh, like the predator from the predator movies.
Just the hunting, the galaxy .
[00:37:34] Jeremy: Oh, I mean, if aliens, aliens exist. And there’re definitely some species out there that do that. I think. Cause you’ve heard the theory, well, not even a theory really. The guy who wrote the Predator movies or directed them somewhere along those lines, or the guy who did both, his father worked for the government.
So, I mean, there’s actually a big theory that the guy who wrote the Predator movie knew about that. That knew about these aliens actually exist, that have the technology to do that. And that’s where they think it’s where the whole glimmer man sighting thing came.
[00:38:07] Jeremiah: I wouldn’t doubt it. I think a lot of stuff you see in movies is stuff that they already know about or like, we think it’s sci-fi and like in the future, futuristic stuff, but I think they, they know all that stuff.
I mean, it’s just not available.
[00:38:22] Eleanor: Get their, the ideas, public ideas from real life. Yeah. Get their ideas from real life.
[00:38:26] Tori: I’ll stick to it from now until forever. That there is no way on God’s green earth that we came up with technology. We have without the help of aliens. I believe the government is working with aliens because it, it ma it makes so much sense because how did we, in such a short timeframe, turn a whole computer into a phone?
It wasn’t that short timeframe From a computer to a phone. Oh, technically it was from a computer to a phone.
[00:39:01] Jeremy: The first computer came out in the fifties or somewhere, or even forties, like those giant room size computers.
[00:39:07] Tori: Yeah. But how did they fit an entire computer into something that, like a microchip, like they’re, the technology’s too advanced, in my opinion, that we just all of a sudden figured out how to do it.
Even with computer involved though. What about computers? But what with computers? What if we got the technology from aliens as well? What if they, what if the government does have something with the aliens where we do get technology from them?
[00:39:36] Jeremy: I mean, phone, uh, computers went like the opposite TVs over time.
Computers got smaller and smaller over time. Like it took 35 years or so to get to a laptop that we know of today and, and another 10, 15 years to get to a cell phone like, like a smartphone. Like, it’s not that hard to imagine though. It’s just the Tony Starks of the human race can do that. Like
[00:40:00] Tori: just building things and, and like that can be your opinion, but my opinion is still the government has had some sort of connection with aliens and is getting technology.
What if that’s what they do at some of these bases?
[00:40:16] Jeremiah: Uh, Eleanor wanted to say something. Oh, that’s
[00:40:19] Eleanor: okay. Just, uh, I was saying, getting back to what we were talking about before and, and how the storylines are taken from reality. Um, you know, humans can’t keep secrets. So if somebody’s got some kind of knowledge of something, they’re not gonna hold it in.
They’re gonna just tell somebody who’s gonna tell somebody. It’s kind of like how they get the storylines, probably because people can’t keep secrets.
[00:40:42] Jeremiah: Well, I think some or a lot of our technology came in like a trade with the aliens. I think when the 1947. , uh, U F O crash. I think they um, cuz I spoke with the lead researcher on that on my show and um, he said there was a live one that they took.
Mm-hmm. . So I think it’s very po it’s very possible that the government traded technology stuff for this alien’s life or whatever.
[00:41:19] Tori: It would just make sense.
[00:41:21] Eleanor: That’s an interesting perspective
[00:41:23] Tori: because we knew that there was an alien and Roswell, we all knew. So what, what became of that situation and what else do they possibly use now from aliens?
They could still be connecting. We don’t know.
[00:41:40] Jeremy: You know that alien autopsy video that came out in the late nineties? Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I had, I had a guy on my show a couple, like a month ago who. He looked into it so deep. Like he’s a former freshman wrestler. He ran for, um, Senator of Illinois I think it is.
But he, he looked into this so deep, he talked to so many people about it, like the details he can give about that video, like they said, like the same as they say about the Paterson Gimlin film. Like no one could make something that fake back in the nineties, like it would never, even today we couldn’t make it look that real.
So I mean, and he talked to like the people who were in the operating room, people behind the glass watching it in the video. And it’s amazing the stuff he says, like, I can’t wait for that episode to come out like a month or so. Like, it’s insane. It’s just like, I literally was never, I can’t wait to hear that.
I mean, it’s all, I was all over Facebook cause I and everything Cause I posted it like everywhere from the video of it cuz people need to hear it. But
[00:42:40] Jeremiah: forget his name. I, yeah, I’ll have to check that out cuz that sounds
[00:42:43] Tori: interesting. It does, it sounds very interesting. .
[00:42:46] Jeremy: Oh, you could tell by like the, by the volume and excitement in his voice.
Like he know to himself, at least he believes he’s telling the truth a hundred percent. Like, and I, I do too. It makes sense. Like he, it’s the same as the guy I had on who prove where Lantis was. Like it just, there was no holes, like a pick in his theory.
[00:43:03] Jeremiah: Yeah. Do you think, um, now since you brought it up or whatever, do you think aliens had anything to do with Atlantis?
[00:43:12] Jeremy: I’ve heard two different perspectives on that now. I heard the, the last person I talked about Atlantis said yes. That the, um, ead or what they call it, Euclid, it’s one of the most talked about you galaxies with aliens, like in star seats. Uh, the Palladian. Palladian, yes. Thank you. I always, for, I always forget what it is.
I always wanna say Eeu CCL for some reason, don’t know why . But the Palladian, like he’s, he said them and another race that looks kind of like, um, A blue eie fish type, alien looking body. Like he said that those ones were in like the where the Americas are now and that these other reptilian like ones were in Atlantis and they, he said they weren’t reptilians, but they’re, as people think of them, but they were like, just look like Reptilians and that they helped Atlantis get to as powerful as it was.
But the only thing that both people who researched Atlantis for a long time agreed on was that Atlantis was a democracy and they had a lot of city states all over the world. So Atlantis technically was the first democracy
[00:44:25] Jeremiah: in the world. Yeah. I think that there was some type of global civilization at some point in the far past.
That’s just my theory for sure. Like before Egypt and all that
[00:44:38] Jeremy: stuff. Uh, I mean, you mean before like hunter gatherers even. .
[00:44:43] Jeremiah: Yeah. I think there was advanced civilizations. Maybe not advanced ASR technology, but like in their own way. Yeah. Well, cuz I think, I think the earth goes through cycles. I don’t think we’re the first people to inhabit earth.
I think it’s happened for many thousands of years or millions of years.
[00:45:04] Jeremy: What, what if the dinosaurs were really, what if the dinosaurs were a sentient race that could, was was basically intelligent, could communicate Like what if they actually wore and we just depicted them as like lizards basically. But what if they wore like a sentient alien race that were here before us and then another alien race came and wiped them out?
And that’s where we find their bones still.
[00:45:31] Jeremiah: It’s like that show. So what are you thinking,
[00:45:33] Eleanor: Jeremiah? Jeremiah, what’s that You thinking that like, , you’re just thinking that they were wiped out and then new people came in and they were wiped out and the new people came in, that kind of thing.
[00:45:44] Jeremiah: Yeah, I think the earth goes through like major, uh, end of the world scenarios and I think it’s just a cycle that it goes through.
And I think that, um, I know there’s a theory of pole ships and whatnot, but I think there was a civilization and then it got destroyed and then either some people survived and they created the, you know, Egyptian civilization or Mesopotamia or whatever and just kind of continued or a whole different thing happened there.
And who’s to say if the aliens seeded the planet again and maybe. I’m not trying to like fear monger anything, but maybe we’re towards the end of our cycle and they’re booting up this hybrid alien race to repopulate once our major catastrophe happens. ,
[00:46:39] Jeremy: it’s awesome. I mean, I don’t know how much I can believe that, honestly.
I mean, I, I just don’t know how much stock I could put in it. Think if anything, they’re gonna take it over with all the different species that are already out there flying around earth. I mean, we know of three common species that people have reported seeing and the minimum. I mean, but I, I mean in science fiction class and high school, like we learn, like I have straight up learned, like there could be so many different species out there that could survive an earth, like besides just the three we know about.
There could be insect based species, there could be. Fish based species, like there could be so many species like that we can compare to some of our animals, but just ours are more, I mean, who knows? Octopi could be, um,
[00:47:25] Tori: aliens as we know. You could go all the way down to microorganisms that are technically of alien species.
[00:47:31] Jeremiah: Mm, yes. Did you see that movie life with Ryan Reynolds? Yes. No. Yes. That was a great movie. Um, no. Basically they are in this, they’re astronauts in this space shuttle and they, um, collect soil samples or whatever. Oh, well it’s not just soil in there.
[00:47:51] Jeremy: I maybe I, oh, I
[00:47:53] Eleanor: think, I think I saw that one.
[00:47:57] Tori: Yeah, because I mean, you.
when the world began. It wasn’t like people that like technically could have been here for. I mean, there has to be stuff first. There’s microorganisms and then there’s like, like you said, there’s plants, there’s insects, and then like you’re bringing in like the human DNA that’s brought into it in your animals.
Everything could have alien dna.
[00:48:17] Jeremiah: Yeah, I heard somewhere. Or that like octopus are really weird and really intelligent and
[00:48:23] Tori: like, oh, don’t they have like eight brains? Like doesn’t each one of their tentacles technically like a brain or something like that? Or am I getting that from a different, I don’t
[00:48:31] Jeremiah: know for sure, but I know I heard somewhere that,
[00:48:34] Tori: yeah, I don’t know.
I feel like I heard something weird about octopus is,
[00:48:39] Jeremy: I mean, you’re
[00:48:42] Tori: octopi, oc octopuses. No, they’re octopuses. It sounds funnier. Octopuses, . Octopuses. Octopi just sounds too professional. Octa puss,
[00:48:56] Jeremy: No, I mean the, it’s like
[00:48:57] Tori: moose. There’s Meese. How many Mees do you see? . Meese. How many meese do you see? . You gotta think of funny random names for these animals that are already plural. Come on guys. .
[00:49:14] Jeremy: I mean, I mean, I don’t know. Octopi can easily be aliens cuz so could
[00:49:21] Tori: dolphins. I like They have nine brains.
I’m sorry, I was off by one. .
[00:49:26] Jeremiah: Yeah, the dolphins too. Like they say that they take the puffer fish or whatever and get like high off of them. .
[00:49:33] Tori: Yeah. Dolphins are smart.
[00:49:36] Eleanor: Smart
[00:49:38] Jeremiah: because I guess the whatever’s in the puffer fish like creates like delirium in them or whatever. So
[00:49:47] Eleanor: isn’t that deadly to
[00:49:48] Jeremiah: humans though?
Yes. If you eat. I think
[00:49:50] Tori: so. Yeah. If you don’t get puffer fish, cook correctly, can you kill you?
[00:49:55] Jeremy: Everybody saw that episode
[00:49:56] Jeremiah: of The Simpsons in the nineties. Special Chefs. Yeah, so I remember that episode, ,
[00:50:03] Jeremy: that’s a, that’s a classic Simpsons episode from like the first or second season.
[00:50:06] Jeremiah: Yeah. It’s all, and then, um, another thing I wanted to touch on is like, you always hear about and know there’s a lot of movies about like, alien invasions, alien takeover, destroy the World or whatever.
But I don’t know what your guys’ take on it is, but my take is like, if they wanted to take us out, they would’ve already . Yeah,
[00:50:30] Jeremy: absolutely. I kind of think girl, like El Omar said earlier, like, people talk and, or, or humans can’t keep secret. So I, I mean there’s this whole theory of Marvel comics. I kind of think it came from government people like kind of releasing this, but this whole theory of Marvel comics.
There’s a council of aliens basically, and they won’t, they made an agreement a long time ago not to mess with Earth because it’s a backwards, dirt ball planet and they’re not civilized enough for the aliens to deal with yet. So that’s why they don’t take us over or Vegas
[00:51:06] Eleanor: us and backwards. We are . The last three years have proved it.
[00:51:12] Jeremiah: Yes. Yeah. What’s his name? Uh, Mitchy Aku or whatever. Talked about the different stages of civilization and we’re like not even the first stage yet. . Yeah. I
[00:51:25] Jeremy: mean, I believe
[00:51:26] Jeremiah: it definitely, and I forget exactly what they classify them as, but like one is like when you take care of all your people is like one stage where there’s no like division or whatever, which I don’t think we’ll ever get there.
[00:51:45] Jeremy: I doubt it. I mean, no, you’re right.
[00:51:47] Eleanor: I don’t think we, Hmm. ,
[00:51:50] Jeremiah: unless the new world order comes in and
[00:51:54] Eleanor: pleasure. Oh, please don’t even stop me with that that that happens in the end of the world will be not too far off.
[00:52:03] Jeremiah: Yeah. Right. . I’m waiting, I’m waiting for
[00:52:06] Jeremy: them to, or if you, I’m waiting for the purge to start happening in real life.
[00:52:10] Tori: Oh God. No. I’m not
[00:52:11] Jeremiah: ready for that. Yeah. I would not be surprised if they did that. Would terrifying implement something like that.
[00:52:18] Jeremy: It it’d be, it’d be population control. Oh
[00:52:20] Eleanor: my God.
[00:52:21] Jeremy: Would be terrifying. All the people who are
[00:52:23] Jeremiah: Oh yeah. I would. Or like a Hunger Games
[00:52:25] Eleanor: boy am I, I’m glad I got my gun license. Mm.
[00:52:30] Jeremy: There’s too people too, too many people for that, I think. But glad
[00:52:33] Eleanor: I got my gun
[00:52:33] Tori: license. I just know that I die already, so I just prepare myself. I’m like, oh, well say goodbye. I ain’t surviving. I probably, I won’t go down this trip. You, I don’t fighting. Happy. Like, bye bitch. , have fun. wasn’t me. I’m gonna eat my bread and drink my water.
[00:52:58] Jeremiah: And yeah, I think, I think that aliens have been around for all time, but yeah. I’m gonna wrap it up. So final question is, um, do you think in our lifetime we will witness disclosure or will the aliens reveal themselves to us and come out Right and front Up front and center with humanity? Oh,
[00:53:25] Jeremy: the what?
We’re gonna have a president elected one day. He’s another gonna get to do his inaugural inaugural address, uh, in front of the freaking White House. It’s just gonna be, we’re here, we’re in charge. get used to it.
[00:53:39] Tori: Yep. Yep. Pretty much. Now see, I think
[00:53:43] Jeremiah: like, uh, Like the Simpsons again. Craig and Craig or whatever the, oh, I
[00:53:51] Jeremy: mean, yeah, there’s two Hail inks.
Yeah. Craig and, uh, wow. Co K or Kong,
[00:53:57] Jeremiah: Craig and Kong, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.
[00:54:00] Tori: I, uh, I think at uh, some point it will happen. Whether it’s going to be in our lifetime, who knows. But I genuinely believe that it will come out. It could be somebody that’s put into office that does something, or it could be somebody who’s just finally like, you know what?
I’m done with this, and just releases a bunch of stuff. Or aliens could be like, you know what, what’s up my dudes? What’s popping? We real, how’s it going? Let me shake your hand. You got a, got a nice shirt that I can wear. It’s a little cold.
[00:54:43] Jeremy: Like, it’s gonna be someone from our generation though. Like when our gener, when our generation finally gets around to become president someday, instead of people that were like young in the sixties and fifties, like that’s when it’s gonna be because they’re gonna be the ones who have been hearing these conspiracies of their life.
Yeah. And when they actually get that little book of secrets, there’s gonna be out there like,
[00:55:04] Tori: oh, if I had Jungle that book, book of secrets. Oh, I, ooh, .
[00:55:10] Jeremy: It’s all true. Aliens
[00:55:11] Tori: exist. Just quickly says that now. Like ducks and covers and weights for their assassination.
[00:55:17] Jeremy: Mc, they’re gonna be like, they’re gonna be like dinosaurs.
Still live the jungles. It was all true.
[00:55:23] Tori: Dinosaurs are still real. Look at an alligator.
[00:55:26] Jeremy: No. Nope. There’s raptors in South America and there’s ulum meme in uh, Africa. We’ve been through this. Sorry.
[00:55:35] Jeremiah: There’s also dinosaurs living inside the hollow earth.
[00:55:38] Jeremy: Yes, yes, exactly. And that’s where King Kong Godzilla live and they keep murder control
[00:55:45] Jeremiah: Good theory. That was another movie that I liked actually. .
[00:55:48] Jeremy: Yeah, that I liked it. They actually used the hollow earth theory for that whole universe. Like it makes, like, it makes it so much better. Yeah, it
[00:55:54] Jeremiah: was cool. And I like that Kong Skull Island was good. That was a good movie.
[00:55:59] Jeremy: Oh, that was a bomb movie.
That was a, that was an amazing
[00:56:01] Jeremiah: movie. And I think in that one, he takes out that giant octopus too. the S, he
[00:56:07] Jeremy: takes out the giant squid in like,
[00:56:08] Jeremiah: yeah. Yeah. The giant squid in, yeah. That movie is great. So what do you think, Eleanor? Are aliens gonna reveal themselves or,
[00:56:20] Eleanor: oh, I hope so. I definitely really hope so.
I’d like to think, yeah, that they’re preparing us for that, but I’m still waiting for a lot of stuff to happen that’s not happening. So. I don’t give it much hope.
[00:56:34] Jeremiah: Yeah. It makes you wonder like they, they could be on completely different timelines. Like who’s to say they don’t live thousands of years? Like well elves from Lord of the
[00:56:44] Jeremy: Rings.
That’s, that’s the whole thing. That’s the whole thing We also didn’t really talk about either on this is that what if inter interdimensional one of their ultra terrestrials and they travel through, they’re just in a different dimension at all times and we can’t see them like me. What it is. Like grays.
Could it be in one dimension, reptilians in another? Uh, the Norse looking, got aliens from another one. I mean, and plus don’t forget, Valiant Thor visited the White House in the seventies, I think it was, or sixties, uh, with, I wanna say it was Johnson or Roosevelt. I forget which president, but Valiant Thor.
Valiant Thor lived in the. White House in Pentagon for a good couple months, try to talk them out of using nuclear bombs. And the president’s daughter, like who’s still alive, has said that she knows it’s a true story. She knows it happened. She was there.
[00:57:42] Jeremiah: Yeah. I’ve heard of stories of like UFOs over like, uh, missile launch sites and they kind of like disable the, like firing mechanisms.
Mm-hmm. , it’s pretty interesting.
[00:57:58] Eleanor: Nice to know that they’re protecting us from nuc nuclear disaster.
[00:58:04] Jeremy: Well, they fear. Yeah. They
[00:58:05] Tori: don’t their children to be in trouble, .
[00:58:09] Jeremy: And they, they fear, they fear it. Cuz for us, we figure that out. Then we figure out space travel more than we already have and, and then more danger to them.
So that’s, that’s when we’re, they wanna be, what’s the word? They wanna be preparatory and get, get it outta the way fast and just make it not happen. Precognitive.
[00:58:30] Jeremiah: Yeah. And I think it’s something that, um, what was it, Oppenheimer, he like realized after he made the atomic bomb, he’s like, I shouldn’t have done that or the nuclear or whatever.
I mean,
[00:58:46] Eleanor: well, if he didn’t do it, somebody else
[00:58:47] Jeremy: would have. Exactly. And yeah, and, and look how fa, look how, I mean, how much longer w would World War II have gone on? And who would’ve won if that didn’t happen? True. Because we weren’t winning. We were not winning at that point on the eastern front,
[00:59:02] Jeremiah: so, oh, it was the biggest scare tactic for sure.
[00:59:08] Tori: I still believe that that pilot feels like crap. The one that had to drop it.
[00:59:13] Jeremiah: Oh yeah.
[00:59:15] Jeremy: Uh, naf, he was at Pearl Harbor. I doubt he feels like crap.
[00:59:19] Jeremiah: Well, yeah, that’s true.
Yeah, they still have like, um, that ghost town or ghost island in Japan. It’s like no one lives there. It looks kind of creepy.
[00:59:36] Jeremy: Oh, there’s a lot of creepy places around the world I’d love to visit. I mean, silent hells based on real town for God’s sake in rural America somewhere. I forget exactly what
[00:59:45] Jeremiah: state it’s in Pennsylvania.
Oh yeah, dude. Centralia Pennsylvania.
[00:59:50] Jeremy: Pennsylvania is creepy as shit
[00:59:51] Jeremiah: like, oh shit. It is what they’ve got the east state penitentiary. He and
[00:59:57] Jeremy: no, what the, I was just, oh no, that’s where the episode XFiles, I was watching this morning for that show, uh, took place too. . That’s what I’m thinking of. A freaking ex files episode about
[01:00:09] Tori: inbred.
Everything goes back to an XFiles episode. Let’s be honest here with ourselves. Somehow, uh,
[01:00:17] Jeremy: of course
[01:00:17] Jeremiah: it does. Yeah, they covered, they covered a lot of, you know, paranormal type stuff. They
[01:00:23] Jeremy: never did Bigfoot though, I don’t think. Yeah,
[01:00:26] Tori: they did. I think they did one episode.
[01:00:31] Jeremy: I think they, they, they did. They they did a water monster episode.
I remember that one. But other than that, like they did, they didn’t do like a Bigfoot one. Dog men wasn’t a thing back then. Like they just, they, there was a lot of crypts they never really touched on. I mean, they did a lot of, they did more comedy episodes than they actually touched on, like Cryptids, but they did the Jersey Dog War.
It was always about the aliens.
[01:00:56] Tori: Well, I mean, the whole premise of the show is built off of aliens. Well, I know that
[01:01:02] Jeremy: aliens, I, I mean, the follow episode of that show was a, was amazing. Like I, uh, that’s one of the best season, that’s one of the best show series finales ever. Mm-hmm. .
[01:01:14] Jeremiah: Yeah, I, um, I think we should start a, uh, crowdfund for like making a new X-Files series
Mm-hmm.
[01:01:28] Jeremy: a hundred percent. I think
[01:01:29] Jeremiah: even if it doesn’t, even if it doesn’t have those two in it. Yeah. Like a ghost on me or something. And, and we’ll get two actors that are actor and actress that are like, kind of similar. Yeah. Mm-hmm. . Well, I mean, and just like redo
[01:01:48] Tori: the show. Okay. You need to have the really, really good sexual chemistry that lasts for many seasons.
That makes me want you to be together that long. That’s my thing. I need six seasons of sexual chemistry. Thank you very much. Before I get what I want,
[01:02:06] Jeremiah: Oh, dry that there. And then you have to throw in some falling outs too. Yes. Oh yeah. And then they real, and then they realize that they really, they get realistic.
The best team. .
[01:02:17] Tori: God, I love that show so much because it has so much to it. .
[01:02:21] Jeremy: Yeah. Dude, you’re being real loud. I kept saying Tay, after I watched the one episode, I’m like, I gotta start a freaking watch along podcast for XFiles.
[01:02:30] Tori: I just started rewatching it again. You could do, it was like my fif. I think it’s like my 15th time restarting it.
No joke. Love, love
[01:02:37] Eleanor: that show. I can’t do that. Where is it available? Hulu. It’s on Hulu. Where is it available to? Okay.
[01:02:43] Tori: Hulu.
[01:02:43] Jeremiah: Every single season on Hulu. They have like every episode. Yeah. I mean they,
[01:02:47] Jeremy: they have the episode that we did today that was bad for tv. So ,
[01:02:50] Tori: I just, I love it. It’s one of those shows that I can keep watching because I know at some point I’m gonna stumble upon an episode I haven’t seen, cuz I’ve probably fallen asleep.
And it happens. Oh no, I, every single time I watch it, I stumble upon an episode I haven’t watched. I’m like, oh, I fell asleep. So it’s kinda nice. I get a little surprise every time I rewatch
[01:03:13] Jeremy: it. If I fell asleep, I always would like rewind it like two episodes just to make sure I didn’t miss anything.
[01:03:18] Tori: Well, half the time I don’t even realize it because like I’ll like watch it with my husband or something and then he’ll keep watching and then I’m just like, whatever.
And then I just pick up and not really think about it. Oh, that’s why usually there wasn’t a whole lot of backstory that I had to catch up on after a few episodes that,
[01:03:35] Jeremy: that’s like me and my wife, she gets all, she gets so mad when I do that. Like it’s literally like, I watched Wednesday like five times.
Cause I had to keep rewinding like back episodes because she freaking would fall asleep like 10 minutes into an episode and I would watch like three episodes in a row.
[01:03:50] Tori: We’re currently watching Blacklist Together and Oh, I love that show. So I’m not really sure if he’s watching it right now. Are you watching Blacklist?
[01:04:02] Jeremy: Negative. Okay. Uh oh. No. Lucas watching the World Rumbo. Come on now. Yeah,
[01:04:09] Tori: he got me hooked on it.
[01:04:12] Jeremiah: Have you seen, uh, the show Fringe? That was good too. Yes.
[01:04:15] Jeremy: I Lo Fringe was like a new XFiles, like that kind of was Fox’s new version of the XFiles.
[01:04:21] Jeremiah: Yeah, I liked it until about season five. I think it got
[01:04:25] Tori: weird.
See, that’s the thing with like TV shows lately is like, they’re only good for a couple of seasons. And then after it’s like, I get so bored with it. I’m like, come on, I really liked this. And now I’m like,
[01:04:39] Jeremiah: either that or they have like one season and that gets canceled and you’re like, no,
[01:04:43] Tori: I want more. Well, that for me, that was like chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
I don’t know if any of you’ve ever watched it, but like it’s on my list. The, they stopped at season four. They’re like, we’re not doing anymore. And I’m like, excuse me, what? , like both Lucas and I were super, super mad that they weren’t doing it. They could have kept doing it though. I mean, it’s Archie comics.
There’s so much more. Well, I mean, it, they stopped and I, it’s like Riverdale. I’ve been livid. I’ve been livid ever since. It’s
[01:05:11] Jeremy: like Riverdale, which they actually were supposed to be in the same universe, but like Riverdale after like, what was it, four seasons? They jumped forward like five years and screwed up everything for the show.
Like they literally jumped forward like five years after they graduate high school in between seasons. It’s like they come
[01:05:27] Tori: back, they talk about Riverdale in Sabrina, so Oh yeah. It’s kind of funny. She, she, she
[01:05:33] Jeremy: was ondale, they drag it
[01:05:33] Tori: crossover, they drag it through the mud. It’s kind of funny.
[01:05:38] Jeremy: Oh yeah, it was
I mean, she was on, she was on like a couple episodes. It was a crossover in like the last season of Riverdale.
[01:05:45] Tori: Yeah. I, I, chilling on, yeah, forget Sabrina. 10 outta 10 if you haven’t watched it.
[01:05:51] Jeremiah: I forget what show my wife and I were watching, but we’re like, . I really hope they stop because it’s so good. I don’t want ’em to drag it out and make it bad.
[01:06:02] Tori: That’s so that’s how I was starting to feel with Stranger Things for a minute and then like they ended season three and I was like, there better be a season four. If they ended at season three, I’m gonna like punch somebody. And then they threw season four out and I’m like, okay, this is gonna be it.
They’re actually gonna be done done now. Cuz they said they were done and they’re like, psych bitch. And I’m like, yes, now I can’t wait. Cause I need to know what happens knowing this is the final season they’re done and they made it. They make it so perfect how they end it, that it’s okay for there to be another
[01:06:36] Jeremy: one.
Yeah. The way they ended the new, the new season was so freaking like, and the new
[01:06:40] Tori: season was so difficult. It was just, and it was so simple. There’s nothing extreme and you’re like, oh, this is gonna be. a good season. It’s the final one. This is it. And you know, these brothers know how to write so they’re gonna end.
Leave it with the biggest cliffhanger of all time. I’m like waiting for a Sopranos moment for
[01:07:05] Jeremy: the show. Well, they’re supposed to, they’re supposed to be a possible spinoff series about 11. And uh, a couple other characters
[01:07:14] Tori: wouldn’t be the same man. I gotta get that big cliff hanger. It’s stranger things.
They can’t not give you that big cliff hanger.
[01:07:23] Jeremy: Yeah.
[01:07:26] Jeremiah: But yeah, thanks, uh, everyone for coming on and, um, talking to Aliens, UFOs, all the different theories, crazy theories, . Cause you never know. No one knows the truth really. Um, unless they have the classified documents. ,
[01:07:44] Eleanor: maybe we’ll find ’em in a garage somewhere.
[01:07:47] Tori: Oh yes. Oh man. Eleanor, you wanna go do some, uh, garage sailing together? ?
[01:07:52] Eleanor: I would love
[01:07:53] Tori: it. Let’s do it. Ooh, maybe we’ll go antiquing too. We might find some there in some random box.
[01:08:03] Jeremiah: But yeah, thank you for coming on. Um, it was fun. And you know, keep your eyes to the sky, as they say
[01:08:12] Tori: always, man. The truth is out way always see looking up. The truth is out there. Hell yeah.
[01:08:20] Jeremiah: I want to believe always
taking up back tax files again.
[01:08:28] Tori: not sponsored by X-Files.
[01:08:31] Jeremiah: We are not sponsored by X-Files, but Fox molder, you need to contact me back so I can Yes. The show.
[01:08:38] Jeremy: He’s like, man, he, he’s like, man, I’ve done like three big roles since that show. Come on now. Like, I’ll disrespect me of that.
[01:08:46] Jeremiah: He’s like, I’m tired of talking X-files.
I want to talk about, so I think he does music
[01:08:51] Tori: now too. He’s in a new movie on Netflix right now that I just started watching. Yeah. Uh, you
[01:08:55] Jeremy: people with um Yep. Oh gosh. Jordan, Jordan Hill and a Murphy. I wanna watch you. That’s so funny. Anything Jordan, Hells an not watch, but
[01:09:07] Jeremiah: Well, yeah, it was great. Um, thank you. And, um, yeah, I’ll post all the stuff in the description, how they can get ahold of everyone and Thank you. At home or in your car or wherever you are for listening. And, uh, yeah, stay vigilant.