https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumship
Medium Lee Walczak
[00:00:00] Jeremiah: Hello, my fellow Terrestrials coming to you from an RV deep in the Carolina Mountains. Welcome to the What If They’re Wrong. Podcast. The podcast that wants you to question everything. Your reality is about to be shattered.
Thank you for tuning in to the What If the Wrong Podcast. I’m your host, Jeremiah. I’m joined today by Lee and we’re gonna be talking about his works and his research and just what he’s into. Um, I’ve been hearing that he’s a medium and he was sent to me by a former guest, uh, April. So we’re gonna talk with Lee.
Hello Lee.
[00:00:57] Lee: Hi. How you doing? Thanks for having.
[00:01:00] Jeremiah: Yes. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for talking with us. Um, always interested to hear people’s experiences and what they’ve, uh, encountered. So, I’ll start with the basic. What was your moment where you decided or realized that this was the type of stuff you were gonna
[00:01:18] Lee: do?
Yeah, that’s a good question. Um, I think. I know the moment, but for some background. I think growing up I always felt a little different in some way. And, I know a lot of us feel different, you know. In some way, but for me it was, it was something very present, you know? And I was like, I can’t put my finger on it.
I can’t. Um, so, so growing up, I, I had that and I was always very drawn to like, you know. Psychic things and psychic phenomena and paranormal phenomena. You know, hauntings or ghost or whatever, you know, it was, that kind of came across my path. There was always something in me that I was like, oh, that I, I wanna learn more about that.
Um, but uh, so growing up, actually, when I was around like 14 maybe. I strongly connected with the term psychic, cuz that’s the only term I really had. I didn’t know what a medium. And, I actually remember I used to do like little, I didn’t even call them readings at the time. But, like little readings on, uh, if anyone remembers, like the AOL Instant Messenger. A Oh yeah, yeah.
I’d be like on there with my friends and I’d be like, oh, you know your grandfather. And, and in retrospect, I, I realized that it was more. Pulling psychic information. Um, it was communicating with a conscious energy. Uh, I didn’t understand that at the time because I think, um, I think that. I thought at the time a medium was somebody who saw dead people or deceased people, right?
Like standing right out in front of them and you had a fluid conversation. It was like talking to a living person, which is not the case, at least in my experience. Um, but when I was 21, fast forward a little bit. Um, I had this moment. I had been out with a few friends the night. One of, uh, my friends at the time was talking about how she thought she was a medium. Something in me was just like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.
Like, you know, of course there’s people that can talk to, you know, I didn’t really question it. It was just like, yes, that, of course. And the next day I, I think it was like a weekend from what I remember. And I was actually trying to take a nap. We had been out like the whole night before and I was tired and uh. I got this overwhelming sensation that, um. My friend who was out with us, not the one who was, uh, the, the medium. but the another friend, uh, I got this overwhelming sensation that her uncle was trying to, to talk to me and her uncle had passed.
And I knew that, um, I didn’t know him or, or anything like that. So, I kept getting the sensation like I needed to. To text her and tell her. I’m like, you know, of course there’s a logical part of my brain that’s thinking like, this sounds crazy. You know, like I’m, I’m just gonna text her and be like, Hey, by the way, your uncle’s here.
You know? Um, it just didn’t make much sense. But, it was like every cell in my body, Just knew that I had to do it. And I, I don’t know how else to explain that except for that. That it was just like this knowing like, please, please, please just, you know. Pick up the phone and, and like text her. So I did. I, you know, I’m like, all right, uh, it wouldn’t go away.
And um, and I texted her and, uh, some things were kind of coming through that were making sense to her. I just kind of went with it, you know. It’s like whatever’s kind of coming to my mind, I’ll just say. Um, and some things were kind of re. But then I got the sensation of like, call her. Call her now. So, so I did, I’m like, can I call you for a second?
And she’s like, well, I’m going into work. And you know, like half hour, but sure. You know. Uh, and that’s when her grandmother, who, um, I knew her grandmother had passed. I didn’t know her grandmother. I had maybe met her briefly in passing like a, hi, how are you? Sort of deal. Um, and that was it, you know? Her grandmother started coming through and I just felt this like, flood of information come over me. To the point where I, I knew things.
Quote unquote shouldn’t have known, you know, like things about who, who was standing in the hospital, who was standing outside the hospital room when she passed because they were uncomfortable. You know, the fact that the grandfather who’s still living like has the picture on his table and he talks to it in the morning and, and then the thing I think that really got me was I was doing things that, so we were on the phone, I couldn’t see her, but I was doing things in the moment that she was doing in memory of her grandmother and I was saying them.
You know, so there was this one point where I was like, you know, I feel like your grandmother’s like cupping your chin or something. Like she’s putting her hand like right under your chin. She’s like, you know, kind of cupping it. And I remember my friend just bursting tears and she’s like, I’m doing that right now in memory of her, cuz she always did that.
And something about her sweater, I’m like, you know, are you like also like right near her sweater that you still have? So these kind of crazy things that I just couldn’t have known. And. Yeah, I mean, I know that was a long answer to your question. I think that was the moment I got off that call and I’m like, well, clearly there’s something here. This is, and I could feel how healing it was for her too, um, to, to hear from that, that energy again.
So, um, her grandmother, so, so yeah. Long, long answer to that, but I think that was the,
[00:06:38] Jeremiah: So you said that you don’t actually like see people or anything like that, or ghosts or whatever. So how do these messages come
[00:06:46] Lee: through? Yeah, um, typically I don’t see them. I do, I will say I, I do see shadows sometimes I do see like little orbs of lights, you know. That are like different colors and things like that.
Um, Typically it does happen, like when I’m ready to connect. So I know for me that, you know, that is a spirit energy coming, uh, coming through. Um, but typically that’s not my main way of communicating at all. So, typically the messages come in, um, through feelings and thoughts and images. In my own head and in my own body.
Um, sometimes. I will feel certain things in my own body, like if somebody died of something of the chest. Specifically maybe the lungs. My breathing will start to get labored. Sometimes if it’s the heart, you know. I’ll get like a little pain in, in my heart area, in my chest. Other times it’s just feelings.
It’s feelings of, for anyone who knows. Um, clear sentience, um, clear feeling is what that translates to. Um, just a feeling of. Different things, certain emotions. And then also, uh, I work clear Cognizantly as well, which is clear knowing. Not really knowing how, you know, but you just know. So, it all comes through that way.
Um, which, uh, I think honestly is, is probably the easiest way that spirit can communicate with us is through our own thoughts rather than physically manifesting. But yeah, that’s my primary way of, of really. So
[00:08:19] Jeremiah: for the messages and, um, dealing with people who want to know about their, like past on relatives, is it something you can just, uh, do on command or is it just like you don’t really have control over it?
So like someone can come to you and be like, Hey, can you tell me what my pass on uncle is thinking? Or is he watching over me? Is that something you can do or is it kind of just like you don’t really have control? Yeah, good
[00:08:49] Lee: question. I don’t have control over who steps forward, so I, I know, you know. From working with, with people, uh, for 10 years with this.
Now I know that understandably people. You know, we’ll sit down. They are hoping to hear from someone specific, and a lot of times that person will come through. Um, but I do, I do say, you know, I, I, I’m not the control police of who comes forward, you know, it’s really whatever energy wants to step forward and whatever’s really needed at that time.
Um, so I could always try to tap into, you know, like someone’s uncle and see, you know, what they’re thinking or, or what’s going on on the other side. Uh, I do remind people like I can’t make them come and talk to me. So if for whatever reason it’s not the right timing or the uncle just doesn’t wanna talk that day or you know, whatever it is, then I can’t force him and be like, come on uncle.
You know? So, um, so yeah. But typically there, there’s at least one soul that will step forward for people. Or, I’ll say at very least, yeah. I would say at least typically one. You know, there, there are of course times where. Seldom, nothing steps forward, but I would say typically at least one. Um, yeah, so if that answers your question.
[00:10:05] Jeremiah: So like if, uh, I’m just making up people. If like Uncle Jim doesn’t want to talk or whatever. Maybe like, Aunt Susie who’s passed on will step up and Yeah. And say
[00:10:16] Lee: something. Yeah. . Yeah, exactly. Um, sometimes it’s, it’s souls that people aren’t expecting to hear from either. And what’s funny is the soul will typically tell me that on the other end.
They’ll be like, I’m not the one they wanted to hear from, but you know, I’m here. Uh, so I actually use that as a sense of, of validation sometimes too. Um, That, you know, and, and I’ll say that and typically, you know, the person on the other end will be like, no, I wasn’t even thinking of them. But it is interesting always to see, I think, who will step forward.
Um, and again, a lot of the time it is that person that someone wants to hear from, but sometimes it isn’t. And, um, I like to tell people with that too, as, as a little side note, it doesn’t mean that they’re not around you or that they don’t care enough to step forward or anything. It’s just the timing of it.
And, you know, maybe at that moment the person isn’t necessarily ready to, um, receive whatever message, even though they, they think that’s what they want. Maybe, you know, for whatever reason, it’s just not the right time to receive that message. So I do tell people it’s not that they’re not around you or that they don’t care it.
You know, maybe it’s not the right time. Maybe, you know, the person isn’t ready to receive it. Maybe my channel just isn’t picking up that signal. Um, but yeah, yeah, a lot of times, um, I will have another soul step forward and, um, yeah, that like maybe someone wasn’t even expecting to step forward. So yeah, . .
[00:11:42] Jeremiah: So the frequency of the messages and stuff, is it something that’s like constant or you gotta be in that frame of mind?
Like, could you be sitting at the dinner table and you’re like, shut up. I don’t want to hear from you right now.
[00:11:58] Lee: Um, yeah, so it’s interesting. I, I do think there’s absolutely a way to shut it off. Um, I, I think it can be hard sometimes though, because for me, the way that I turn it on is I just focus on it. I just focus on the idea of like, oh, I wonder who’s around. And that thought in and of itself, you know, whether I’m really.
Intending it or not, you know, to like really connect or that thought in, in and of itself can usually kinda ignite things a little bit. But over the years, of course, I have learned how to kind of shut it off when I need to. So, you know, I’m not in the grocery store and having spirits, you know, bombard me or sometimes they do get through.
I, I will say there, there have been times like, I’m out, you know, and, and someone’s like ringing me out or something and I’m like, oh my God. Like his father’s here and, you know, um, But yeah, there, there is, there’s a way to, to kind of turn off and, and I do tell people too, especially people who are beginning the journey of mediumship, you can absolutely tell them like, now is not a good time.
You know, so please, you know, respect that boundary a little bit. It’s almost like, you know, living people, we have boundaries with living people. Uh, I do the same with the deceased, where, you know, um, you can’t be coming to me at one in the morning when I’m trying to sleep or, you know, just kind of going about my day.
So, so, yeah, but sometimes it, it does happen. I’ll say that, you know, I can be out and about and I’m like, who is the mother energy? You know, that’s like following me. Um, and, and I, I won’t, that’s just my thing. I won’t address it out in public, you know, I know some TV shows, you see like, mediums kind of go up to people and they’re like, you know, who’s the young male who passed for you?
And, and I think, I think it’s a TV show, so we’re not really seeing too what goes on behind the scenes. You know, they’re getting someone’s permission to even say that and everything. But for me, I, I always like someone’s permission as well, you know, so I, I don’t, I don’t deliver those messages out in public.
But, um, yeah, so if that, uh, if that kind of answers your question. Yeah. .
[00:14:00] Jeremiah: Yeah, I was just curious cuz like, you always hear about people, um, or like see on TV shows or movies or whatever, like they get this power and they’re just like overwhelmed because like they get super sensitive hearing or something and then they just hear like everything everywhere and they’re just like, ah, and they go crazy
[00:14:20] Lee: Yeah. Yeah. Um, I, I think maybe in the beginning it can feel a bit more like that, um, for some people. Yeah, but I, I think as you kind of evolve and as you go along, you, you figure out how to kind of navigate it a bit better, where, you know, again, it’s, it’s like, you know, you’re, because it, it doesn’t really, it, it doesn’t.
You know, if you’re out pumping gas or something like that, and then you’re trying to do that and then the person, you know, on the pump like near you or something like their father’s trying to come through, you know, it’s not always conducive just to kind of going about your daily business, which we have to do.
So I, I think, you know, and I, I think. Like you said, you know, it, it would get very overwhelming, right? Like if we’re just hearing things all the time and that’s the only thing that, you know, we kind of have coming in our channel, um, that would get really overwhelming. So I think maybe in the beginning, you know, it can feel that way for some people until you learn how to kind of navigate it.
Um, but definitely as, as I know, as I continued my journey, I was like, okay, I can actually tell. You know, please, not now. Or, um, doesn’t mean some of them are not persistent about it. I’ll say that, you know, uh, cuz some souls really wanna get across a message and . Um, and typically I’ll, I’ll say something, you know, like, I really understand, but I just can’t, I’m not in the space to do it right now.
So, um, so yeah. But, uh, I like that analogy though of, of people like getting their powers and, you know, they’re hearing everything all the time and, uh, yeah. Yeah. I was
[00:15:52] Jeremiah: talking with someone and we were talking about ghosts and they were like, well, ghosts are kind of just like people and you know, if the person was an a-hole in real life, then they’re probably gonna be an a-hole in the afterlife.
So I’m sure you deal with that too.
[00:16:10] Lee: Sometimes. Yeah, I, I think it’s, it’s far and few between with that and, and it’s always, from what I know, you know, this is my perspective in doing this work, in, in my opinion. So not everyone will agree with this, but, um, I, I think it’s always a choice on the soul’s end to, you know, get to the other side and choose not to evolve.
Um, and, uh, you know, I, I do. I see the other side of it actually a lot as well, where, you know, someone will, like, a soul will come through and they’ll acknowledge the fact that they were kind of a jerk in life, but now they’re kind of offering an apology to someone for that. Like, I see now, you know, why, um, you know, and where I might have or could have done things maybe a little better or, you know, whatever it is.
Um, so I see the other side of it a lot too, but I, I think it’s, I think it’s. Yeah, kinda like in life, like we can choose to evolve and we can choose to grow as people, or we can choose to kind of stay stuck in our own stuff and our own patterns and all the stuff that’s not really serving us and maybe be a little bit of a jerk.
And I think we have the same choice when we cross over. Yeah. . Yeah.
[00:17:21] Jeremiah: I think that people, I’ve talked about this before, but like I think we’re here to learn and grow and that’s the experience of life and being a human. And um, like you said, people can get stuck. You get those people that they’re just mad constantly at everything at the world and.
There’s, you have that choice to turn that off and you have that choice to view things differently. And the mind is a powerful thing. Like you can convince yourself to be positive even in a bad situation. And you have people like in third world countries that have like next to nothing and they’re one of some of the happiest people on the planet.
[00:18:01] Lee: Right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Um, so yeah, I think, I think kind of like you just said, yeah, it’s. It parallels life in, in a lot of ways that if, you know, if we’re choosing to be stuck in, in life, you know, and again, I, I say that in a, a general kind of contextual way, but um, you know, if we’re, we’re choosing to kind of just stay in our own, like anger, whatever it is, it is a choice.
And I think we still have that same choice when we pass, you know, to either continue to grow and evolve as a soul or to stay in some of our anger or our. , um, whatever it might be. And, and I do think a lot of time, that’s where this idea of ghosts actually comes from is, um, I truly don’t believe they’re, they’re stuck by any external force or, or anything like that.
I think, again, this is just my opinion, but I think that they are choosing to continue to keep themselves stuck even, you know, in the afterlife. Um, so they’ll kind of stay closer to the earthly plane. And maybe that allows them to kind of be in some of that anger or stuckness. Right?
[00:19:11] Jeremiah: Oh, I’ve heard from other ghost uh, investigators and stuff.
It’s like it, a lot of ghosts seem to. Be from like tragic deaths or like bad accidents or they get murdered or whatever. So it would buy into that or tie into that, um, choosing to stay on this plane because they weren’t really like ready to go. It kind of like abruptly ended their life and so they still get stuck.
[00:19:39] Lee: Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I do think trauma can sometimes link, you know, as far as the passing can, can link to somebody, um, potentially choosing, you know, so potentially choosing to still, you know, um, be closer to the earthly plane. Um, but I, I see a lot of it the other way too, where, you know, I’ve brought through hundreds, I think, you know, of souls, if not more, who died very dramatically, whether it’s.
Unfortunately, you know, murdered or, or, um, ending their, their lives and, and they are at peace on the other side and they’re fine. Um, so again, I think it’s just on part of the soul really. Um, I don’t, again, just my kind of perspective on it, but I just, I don’t feel that as soul as we just get stuck, you know, because of how we died or, you know, , whatever it is, whatever factor is kind of playing in, I, I actually don’t think we get just stuck.
I think we keep ourself in, in that, um, uh, in that place. I do think too, especially if you’re going into a place like as a paranormal investigator or something, which I don’t do, um, but I, I think if you’re going into a place that has had a lot of traumatic history, a lot of the times, what you’re picking up on as far as like the vibe and the kind of, you know, I think that.
A lot of the time, not always, but is residual energy. You’re feeling kind of the things that have happened there before. Um, and um, and I will say sometimes, you know, I call them lower vibrational energies who are, you know, a bit more self-serving rather than like, you know, um, For, for the idea of interconnectedness and, and oneness.
Um, sometimes they can be attracted to areas that, uh, have like a lot of residual energetic trauma, but I think for the most part, that’s what people feel a lot is, you know, that vibe of like, oh, you know, it feels like there’s something here and it doesn’t want me here a lot of the time. That’s like the residual energy in my experie.
[00:21:43] Jeremiah: Yeah, I’ve heard that too. Where that, um, energy will just hang around. Like that’s why when you step into a place, sometimes you’ll just feel heavy or feel like something’s just not right. It’s probably cuz something in the past, , it’s just lingering.
[00:22:01] Lee: Yeah. Um, and energy does that until, you know, maybe it’s cleared or whatever it is, but.
But yeah, I mean energy, you know, seeps into everything around it. So, uh, you know, you can definitely feel things from, from the walls, so to speak, in different places and stuff like that. Um, especially if you are so, and that’s even hypersensitive to energy. But, um, but yeah, it does absolutely linger sometimes.
So I think people sometimes get that confused in certain cases where, you know, it’s like, oh, I have such a bad vibe about this. There must be. Uh, you know, dark entity or something, and I find a lot of time, it’s not even a conscious en entity that they’re picking up, it’s just, you know, um, that there was a lot of traumatic events that happened in the space and in that energy has never been cleared or lifted.
So that’s, that’s the feeling that they’re, um, picking up on.
[00:22:55] Jeremiah: I totally believe that. Um, cuz I’ve been to places like Gettysburg and you can just feel like a heaviness in the air when you’re there and like, I don’t even have any type of like supernatural gifts or whatever. So , if I can feel it, I can only imagine what people who have that.
Can feel when they’re there, like whether you’re a medium or a clairvoyant.
Yeah.
[00:23:19] Lee: Yeah. Um, I personally, I, I used to go to a lot of places like that. Now I kind of stay away from it. Just because it’s just not the energy that I, I really wanna be in. As someone who does feel a lot of things, you know, it, it, that can be a little overwhelming.
Um, so I kind of, I try to stay away from that. I think definitely in the beginning of my journey, which by the way, I don’t suggest this to anybody who is starting off their journey, like, please don’t make the same mistake I did. But I, I would, I’d like go to like different graveyards that were supposedly, quote unquote haunted with friends and, you know, try to pick up if I could feel any, you know, conscious energies there.
And, um, nowadays if I could go back and talk to my pass self, I’d be like, absolutely do not do that. You know, because first, you know, it’s just, it’s not the energy you really wanna be in. Let’s just, let’s put it that way. But, um, but I definitely used to do that in the beginning. And, and it was a part of my journey.
I, I get that now. But, um, yeah, I disclaimer really anyone listening who’s like, interested in this probably don’t, don’t put yourself through that. But, um, yeah, so, uh, so these days I, I kind of try to stay away from places like that, but, um, but yeah, I, I can see where there might be a draw for some. So
[00:24:42] Jeremiah: what are your thoughts on the whole Ouija board thing?
Because I hear varying things about it. Some people don’t believe in it at all. People love to use it. Say don’t use it. . Yeah. I just gotta hear your take on it, .
[00:24:57] Lee: Um, it’s a good question. I get that one sometimes I’m just gonna speak from, from my, my perspective, cuz that’s all I can do anyway.
But, I don’t, I’ve never got a good feeling from them personally, and that’s just me. Um, I’ve never used one. I’ve never had a, a desire really to use one. Um, I, I think there are better ways. Of communicating with the other side. I don’t think you need a Ouija board to be honest. Um, but it’s funny because, uh, a mentor of mine actually, who I greatly respect, who is, uh, a really incredible, you know, psychic medium and, and lots of other, you know, hats she wears as well.
Um, she says something different, you know, where she’s like, it’s really about the intention that you go into it with and, and I can get behind that as well. You know, I can get behind that idea of it is about intention. . So just like anything else, like if, if you don’t really know what you’re doing with it or you know, you don’t have experience or it’s, you know, you don’t really know what the intention is, whatever it may be, yeah.
Maybe, maybe kind of don’t play with it. But I don’t, for me personally, I’ve just never got a great vibe from it. Um, and again, I’ve never really had any desire at all to use them or, or anything like that. I, I, For me, right? Like a better option might be going to a medium or, you know, like a authentic, you know, medium.
Um, uh, maybe, you know, even along the lines of what I teach people a lot, you know, like connecting to the loved ones, just, you know, on the other side by themselves, you know, just kind of sitting and meditating and asking them to come forward. And, um, I think those are much better ways just in, in my opinion.
I’ve met people that really don’t seem to have an issue with Ouija boards, and that’s cool too. But I, I would say at, at very least, yeah, you know, about the intention piece. Like, you know, if, if your intention is to go in and receive only the information that’s for the highest and greatest good. That sounds, that sounds better to me than just kind of being like, let’s go play with the Ouija board tonight.
You know, . Um, so yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:14] Jeremiah: Yeah, I heard on, I believe it was Joe Rogan a long time ago where he was like talking about not so much the Ouija board, but like psychedelics and stuff and yeah, people doing mushrooms and stuff. It’s like, imagine if there is like another dimension with like intelligent entities and they all they have to deal with is like some stoner kids in a in like a trailer or whatever.
or just getting high eating pizza and playing video games and stuff. . Yeah. And they’re just like, really? Is this what we gotta deal with ?
[00:27:46] Lee: They’re like this again. Yeah. We’re we’re doing this again. Yeah. . Seriously? Yeah. Um, that is funny. I like that.
[00:27:54] Jeremiah: So like, yeah, it is all about intention. I think. Um, I person.
Wouldn’t mess with the wheezy board, but that’s just cuz I have no idea what I’m doing. . Yeah. Yeah. And I don’t want to invite the wrong thing in, you know, cuz I hear about attachment and stuff like
[00:28:09] Lee: that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I’ll say I’ve, I haven’t really worked in, in the realm of, of attachments or anything like that, and I will never tell somebody that they have a negative attachment or.
I, I could go on a, on a little, uh, thing about that, but basically I think it just puts somebody in fear, you know, and that’s just not gonna help anybody. Um, and they’re gonna walk away thinking, oh my God, I have this negative attachment, and then they’re gonna start creating things in their own reality that mirror what you just said.
So I, I would never tell anyone that or, or anything like that. I don’t really work in that realm of things, but, Intuitively, if I kinda, again, this is just through my lens. Um, if I had to say, yeah, I, I think there’s at least a possibility that, you know, there are lower vibrational energies that might be opportunistic in that way and might be like, oh, you know, let me try to come through and, um, do I think it looks exactly like it does in movies or, or television?
Absolutely not. But yeah, I mean, just to kind of err on the side. Caution, I guess there, and, you know, um, because yeah, I, I, I do believe, like I said earlier, there are energies who are just a bit lower vibrational. I don’t really put my focus there. Don’t, you know, um, I don’t talk too much about it. Try not to focus on it and just try to focus on, you know, the energies that are here for the highest good of, of everything.
Um, I, I think yeah, there, there does exist that duality in some sense. So, um, yeah, I, I think it’s, it’s okay to be, um, you know, uh, discerning about what you are bringing into your space.
[00:29:58] Jeremiah: Uh, it’s always good to be aware. , being aware is key in all facets of. Um, it still blows my mind. Some people have no spatial awareness, like Yeah, just like going to the supermarket or like, whatever, and they just are oblivious to everything around them and Yeah.
Yeah. You’re like trying to get through and you’re like, really, like, you don’t sense that I’m. Here it’s .
[00:30:24] Lee: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it is interesting though, because you’re right there and you know, this doesn’t come from like a, a judgmental place for me, but there, there are definitely people who, who I even know and, and that I’m close to, who, you know, cannot walk into a room and read the energy of the room at all, you know?
Uh, and, and I think that’s just their journey here. You know, they, they don’t have that awareness. Um, and that’s okay, but. But yeah, I, I do agree with your point that yeah, awareness is, is really key. Um, and especially when you’re kind of putting your, your feet in, in this kind of work and, and all of that, I think discernment and awareness are really important.
Yeah.
[00:31:07] Jeremiah: So through your journey and everything, um, have you picked up any other gifts or skills?
[00:31:14] Lee: Um, oh, that’s a good question. Um, yeah, I. I, I think they all kind of like go a bit together. It’s more the mediumship for me. And, um, I do think, honestly, I have, I haven’t explored it at this point, but like, um, uh, Capabilities of like things like reiki and or reiki, uh, not reiki, Reiki, yeah.
Uh, and, and all that. Clearly I haven’t explored that because I can’t even say it Right. Um, but reiki and, and all that. Um, cuz I’ve had some interesting experiences throughout my life, um, with that. Like when someone arounds me, you know, like is in pain or something, you know, in a certain like area of their body, like their knee or something, you know, me just kind of knowing that and then, you know, Uh, very seldom in the past, like trying to kind of see if I could energetically, you know, through my hands or, or whatever, like make, make their knee feel better or what.
And like I’ve had some pretty strong even emotional reactions from people. Um, so I know that that’s somewhere in me, it’s just not something I’ve really explored at this point. Maybe, you know, in the future more so. Um, but I, I think that’d probably be it. Besides just the whole overall, you know, kind of, um, being an empath, you know, I, I do identify as an empath and, um, you know, so that goes a bit further for me than just mediumship.
It’s like, you know, feeling the emotions of other people and, and all that. Um, and, um, being, uh, very aware. Uh, to a, to a hypersensitive extent of, you know, what people are feeling around me and, and how they’re feeling. Um, I do believe though that all mediums are empaths. I I don’t think all empass are mediums, but I do think that all mediums are empass because we have to feel what the spirit on the other side or the soul on the other side is, um, giving to us.
You know? So, um, so there, there’s that piece, but that kind of goes along I think with the mediumship for me. I, I think I, I have to kind of have that in order to even communicate with the other side, but it does work with living people as well.
[00:33:31] Jeremiah: Yeah, I don’t claim to have any powers or gifts or anything, but I am very good at seeing, this is gonna sound weird, but I, I’m really good at feeling people’s auras, like their emotions.
And it’s weird to say cuz like I don’t see anything or, but I can just sense people’s moods and I can sense I can, I’m really good at reading like situations. I know like how to navigate and, and work with whatever I’m dealt, dealt with or whatever is in front of me. Yeah. Like I said, I don’t claim to have any gifts or anything, but I definitely can sense that I know like if someone’s having a crappy day or if someone’s in a really good mood or if someone is kind of just like at their wits end or like, it is just something I can pick up
[00:34:23] Lee: Yeah. Um, and I, I think that makes sense to me too, because. You’re, you’re even doing this podcast, which to me says there’s, you know, some draw to this sort of stuff, which, um, I think typically like, uh, people with heightened intuition or, you know, who are maybe impas or mediums or whatever it is, whether they’re conscious of it or not, are very drawn to this type of thing.
Um, but I would say from what you just said too, that it’s probably like a heightened intuition with you. I think all of us are intuitive. Whether we know it or not, I think some people, it’s almost like playing an instrument. You know, like some people can sit down and, and play the piano right away.
You know, they don’t really have to be taught. It’s just kind of like, oh, this just makes sense. Some people have to work towards it and have to really kind of develop the, the skill. I find the same thing to be true about intuition, that some of us just come here and we’re already kind of turned on in that way.
We have like a heightened, kind of intuitive sense about us other people. Who, who might not identify that way are intuitive, but they might just have to work a little more towards kind of developing it. You very well could be just one of those people that does have a really heightened sense of, you know, your, your intuition already.
[00:35:39] Jeremiah: Yeah. And I think it’s been going on since the beginning of time too, but like you have figures like Mozart who was just talented or already gifted for music, and you have people like, uh, Albert Einstein, who is just really talented and gifted. Math and stuff like that. And so you have these people who are just more in tune with the universal knowledge or whatever you want to
[00:36:04] Lee: call it.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Um, and I absolutely believe people like Moza and, you know, all of that, like they were channeling in some way, you know, not maybe channeling in the way that, um, you know, I do it or, or maybe you do it or somebody else does it. But I do believe, like you just said, that’s. Tapping into, you know, this, um, universal consciousness and this universal, um, whatever word that you wanna put to it.
But, uh, and then channeling that energy through our body in some way, whether we’re conscious of it or not. Um, so yeah, I love that. I, I absolutely believe that.
[00:36:43] Jeremiah: Yeah. And then my wife, um, she’s gonna hate me for talking about this, but like, she does not know. When to not say things. so, so she’ll say things and she won’t realize that she should have just kept it in her head.
she doesn’t really have like a filter, so I have to like tell her like, uh, that you shouldn’t have said that. Or if she starts to like talk about something that she shouldn’t be saying or I kind of have to like grab her arm or something and just be like, this is not the time for that. Yeah.
[00:37:18] Lee: Yeah. Yeah, that’s too funny.
I, I definitely know I won’t name them, but , you know, people, people in my life who are like that. Um, and you know, that’s all right. It’s just who they are. But, uh, that’s too funny. .
[00:37:32] Jeremiah: So you said, um, that you work with people. Is that, um, like your main gig or? Um, something you do for fun or,
[00:37:41] Lee: yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I do do it.
Um, I would say like, my main thing, I do other things as, as well that, you know, uh, are not, um, in the real of spirituality, but that is, you know, um, a, a significant, I’ll say, presence in my life. So I do, you know, work with clients. And things like developing intuition or navigating, you know, being hypersensitive and, and, um, everything that comes with that.
And also, you know, doing, uh, mediumship readings and intuitive readings for people and, um, you know, everything that comes with that as well.
[00:38:17] Jeremiah: And you said you don’t do any like investigations or anything. Have you ever thought about like, tagging along with a team or, yeah. Um,
[00:38:26] Lee: anything like, I think maybe in the past I would’ve probably said yes to that
Uh, at this point, I, I guess it would depend on the investigation. It would depend on the environment, the people, you know, um, what their intentions were, how I, I felt about ’em, you know, if they resonated with me or not, uh, the environment, what the purpose of everything was. Um, but typically I do try to stay away from, from things like that.
Just again, because it’s, it’s not necessarily the energy that, that I want to be in. Um, so yeah, I, so I don’t know. I, I don’t know if I can answer that a hundred percent, but I, I definitely lean more towards no, uh, . But yeah, it might just, it might depend, right? Like I, you know, I never wanna say absolutely no to anything, but, uh, it might depend on, on the circumstance and the people surrounding it and, and all that, but, Yeah, I mean, I, I can’t though really see myself wanting to, to go to like, you know, some dilapidated building in the middle of nowhere where, you know, there’s like supposedly this, um, you know, I don’t know, like angry spirit or whatever, you know, that’s not really my stick, but, um,
Yeah. But I don’t know, um, you know, maybe if the conditions were right, I’ll say, and that’s a strong maybe, but , yeah. .
[00:39:54] Jeremiah: So, um, when people come to you, what’s the most common thing that they come to you for answers for? Yeah. Is it usually family, like pass on relatives and stuff?
[00:40:06] Lee: Yeah. I, I think I kind of have two camps with that.
You know, I, I have the mediumship, uh, the people who are looking for mediumship, and then I have the other people I think, who, uh, are just typically maybe attracted. Um, what I do and, and things in this realm because they are hypersensitive, they are very intuitive and just don’t know what to do with it.
Or they wanna develop it more, um, in the mediumship camp. Yeah. People typically, I think honestly, most people are just looking to, to really see if their loved ones are at peace. Is is the, the biggest kind of thing that I find with, with mediumship. Um, sometimes there is just a general curiosity too of like, I wonder what’s gonna happen if I, you know, sit down with this person.
Um, but. I think the question I, I see and, and hear for myself and, and just witness otherwise most with that is like, you know, or my loved one’s. Okay. Which spoil alert for everyone. The answer’s always yes. Like they’re, they’re fine on the other side. Um, so, so there’s that with the mediumship. Uh, and then I think with the intuitive group of people, typically I, I get the people that.
Um, like I said, are, are very intuitive or, or maybe they do have mediumistic tendencies or they have psychic tendencies and, um, they don’t really know what to do with it. And, you know, maybe they think they’re kind of losing their mind a little bit or, or maybe they’re a bit more grounded with it and they’re just like, I, I know I’m not losing my mind, but I don’t know what to do with this.
You know, so, um, so I get a lot of, of that as well. But I do get people too on, on. All points of their journey. Um, you know, so sometimes it’s, it’s totally different. But, um, I would say, I would say those two things the most. Yeah.
[00:41:54] Jeremiah: Through all your experiences, all your people that you deal with and stuff like that.
And you don’t have to say names or anything, but like, what was your maybe one or two like most memorable, uh, moments?
[00:42:07] Lee: Oh, that’s a good question. There’s been, there’s been so many. Um, I, I think, or whatever
[00:42:14] Jeremiah: comes to mind first.
[00:42:15] Lee: Yeah. I, I think just in general, because this has happened, you know, multiple times, like people will come to me and say that, you know, um, hearing from their loved one through me, you know, was the reason that they stopped contemplating.
Possibly ending their life. Um, you know, that is, is extremely memorable for me. Obviously. Um, you know, I’ve had people, uh, come again, multiple people with this as well, uh, but come and say, you know, um, things like, you know, that reading for me meant. And did more for me than, you know, years in grief therapy or, you know, regular therapy.
And not in any way that I’m saying grief therapy or therapy is, is bad by any means. I think it’s actually a wonderful tool, but obviously hearing something like that about, you know, uh, reading that, that I did, um, you know, and uh, that Spirit channel threw me for, um, is extremely memorable. Um, I think just in general, I, I can’t think of too many specific examples at the moment, but I think in general too, um, you know, every reading is, is special in some way to me.
And I, and I consider it, you know, a privilege to be able to do it for people. Um, but I, I think what stands out too, you know, with reading wise, like parents who have lost their kids and, you know, like bring their children through. Um, I, I, that’s always. Really kind of memorable for me and not that other readings aren’t, you know, cuz you know, someone can grieve the loss of their dad just as hard as they can grieve the loss of a child.
But for me, you know, there’s something about that specific kind of piece, you know, um, parent, you know, losing a child. Um, so, um, so yeah, I would, I would say all of that on a, on a more general,
[00:44:08] Jeremiah: Yeah, they, they always say that like, the loss of the child is like one of the worst grieving things. Like people always feel like, so like empty and then they get into a whole like, spiral of thinking like, oh, it’s my fault.
Yeah. And then they might go to suicide or whatever. And even if it’s not their fault at all, like I had a teacher back in like seventh grade and he had a, I lived in like an Amish country , so there. Horse and buggies and stuff, and I guess they were doing a horse and buggy ride and his daughter like fell off the back and got trampled by the wheel or whatever and got and passed on and uh, I guess he couldn’t take it and uh, he ended up killing himself too.
And um, so for you to be able to give people like some peace and hopefully prevent that happening. Yeah, uh, that’s definitely. Admirable thing.
[00:45:06] Lee: Yeah. I mean that’s, um, and, and that’s why I continue to, to do, you know, what I do to, to help people and in all ways with, with some of that piece. And, um, and that is something that comes up a lot, you know, what you just mentioned, the guilt.
Whether it’s the loss of a child or, you know, somebody completely different like a parent or a friend. Um, I, I think that’s a really common message that I get from spirit and readings is, you know, please let go of the guilt that you’re carrying. I’m okay on the other side, and this guilt is only inhibiting you from living your life.
Um, and I know as, as humans we do that, you know, we, we tend to carry around this, these ideas of like, oh, it’s my fault, or I could have done better, or I could have prevented this. But I’ll say in every single reading that I’ve ever done, where that has come up for somebody, the answer is always no. You couldn’t have, you know, I was supposed to go when I did.
Nothing about it was your fault, you know? Um, I’ve never heard anything different from spirit in that regard, so, um, so yeah. But that does come up a lot. It’s
[00:46:12] Jeremiah: hard cuz we’re wired as humans to blame somebody or something. Yeah. And um, if you don’t get, like you can’t really blame anyone, then you kind of blame yourself.
[00:46:23] Lee: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s um, Yeah. Again, it’s something that does come up pretty commonly, I think, for people and, but what I love about Spirit and, and, and the messages there is that it is always an invitation for people to release that, you know, and, and I think a lot of the time, if they feel like they are hearing it from the one person that they wanna hear it from, which is the soul on the other side, that leaves the most positive impact because I think, you know, Anyone close to somebody you know, who’s still alive can say like, oh, they wouldn’t want you on the other side to, you know, carry this.
And, and maybe for some people that actually does work and it helps and that’s great and awesome and people can move on. I’m sure that has happened, but I, I’ve definitely sat with people very understandably, who are on the other end of that spectrum. Really feel like they can’t hear it from anybody else, but that soul on the other side.
So my job as the medium is just to be that bridge and, and allow that connection to happen. Um, and, and that’s why, what, you know, well, I’ll say part of what I, I really do love about being able to, to do this work. So
[00:47:37] Jeremiah: what’s next in your, uh, journey as a medium and journey as your life and yourself? Uh, do you have any plans to, to do anything else?
I know you spoke briefly on reiki. Yeah,
[00:47:52] Lee: yeah, yeah. You know, I, there is a part of me that, that would like to look, I think, a bit more into reiki and I just haven’t, you know, found the, the time I guess, or, you know, it just hasn’t clicked. So I haven’t, but I would like to explore that in the more, um, uh, more of the energetics of like healing in that sense.
Um, I’m also very drawn to which I, I do, you know, obviously now as well, but very drawn to helping people developing their own abilities. And, um, one thing I’ve always been very, very drawn to, which. Um, I keep putting the intention out there to spirit, so, you know, I trust that, you know, if it’s meant to happen, it, it will and it will all align.
But, um, is working with younger people, um, who are, are very sensitive. Like, you know, whether it be children or adolescents or. What, whatever it might be, you know, who, who are experiencing all these things and, um, don’t know what to do with it. And also, you know, might have a lot of other challenges with it.
Um, cuz in a lot of senses I feel like I, I was that, that kid who wasn’t necessarily seeing spirits or anything around me, which I’m, I, I think actually grateful for. I think for me that would’ve been too much. Um, but um, was feeling all of these different things around me all the time. And not knowing what it was, what it was coming from, why I felt things so deeply, why I felt a little different from, you know, uh, the other peers and, and even sometimes adults around me.
Um, so, so I’d really love to actually get into that and, and help, you know, younger people, um, to, to really, um, develop and navigate some of their. Be
[00:49:33] Jeremiah: the, uh, Charles Xavier of . Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of the medium world. .
[00:49:39] Lee: Yeah. I’ll take
[00:49:40] Jeremiah: it. Yeah. . No, that sounds good. And um, it does help, like will you talk about, on the show about kids and how they have more connection to the spirit world and how they still have their innocence and they still have that like free spirit and.
Some kids do get lost and they need kind of that mentorship to figure out their path and realize that they’re not like weird or crazy or whatever like that. Yeah. Because, you know, they might get told like, oh no, you’re crazy. Or you’ll, you’re just making things
[00:50:17] Lee: up. Right. Like Yeah. You know, like, I think that’s very common.
Like, you know, it’s in your imagination or you’re, you’re crazy. You want attention, you’re making it up. And, and a lot of the time I find that that is not the case. Um, Um, you know, I, I even, I can’t imagine for myself, like, and I know some kids do, you know, but I can’t imagine for myself being younger and actually seeing spirits around me or full well, knowing that spirits were communicating with me, but not knowing what to do with that.
I actually am kind of grateful for some of that. I’ll call it ignorance to what it was, you know, when I was, when I was growing up. Cuz I think it, it did in some way create, I’ll say a safe space for me to kinda, you know, fall into it when I was older. Um, but I, I can’t imagine, you know, how overwhelming that might get for, for kids especially who, who don’t know what’s going on, don’t know how to deal with it.
Um, so, so yeah, I’d love to, I’d love. You know, kind of delve into that a little bit and hopefully do some goods around that. And, um, yeah. Yeah, I, I like it .
[00:51:30] Jeremiah: So if anyone wants to get ahold of you, um, how can they go about doing so?
[00:51:34] Lee: Yeah, so right now my website’s under construction at the moment. Uh, so, which it has been for a little while, which is why I left.
But, uh, it’s getting there. But, uh, right now easiest way would be Facebook, I’m under Psychic Medium, Lee Wack or Facebook Dot. Uh slash lee the medium. Um, so you can message there or you can email me, um, at lee wallack vitality gmail.com. And then obviously when my website is up, that will be a different story.
But for now, those are two, uh, probably best ways.
[00:52:08] Jeremiah: Okay. And I’ll make sure to put them in the description so if someone wants to talk with you, they can find that easily and get to you easily. Yeah. Um, someone might want to talk to you about something with their past on relative or friend or family, or someone might just want to have some type of healing from the pain that they’re in right now or whatever.
So I’ll definitely link that in there to my listeners out there. Make sure that if you are dealing with anything or if you are having suicidal thoughts or anything like that, like. You’re not alone, and there are people out there that will hear you out, listen to you, help you. Um, life is hard, unfortunately.
And, but we’re all gonna make it through .
[00:52:51] Lee: Absolutely. And I will just say a little caveat really quick on that note. You know, if, if someone is listening and, and they feel unsafe with themself, I, I would say a medium is not, doesn’t need to be your first stop. You know, like there, there are other avenues, you know, Um, I would encourage people to, to link or, uh, connect with, you know, for whether it’s like a hotline or whether it’s getting a doctor or, you know, telling somebody that’s very close to, I always encourage that.
Um, so I’ll just put that out there. But, um, yes,
[00:53:25] Jeremiah: definitely. I didn’t mean to make it sound that
[00:53:27] Lee: way. Oh no, I was just thinking back about what I was saying earlier and I’m like, you know, I wanna make it clear too, that. , my, my suggestion isn’t like a medium being the first stop, you know, so , um, it can be a stop along the way, but make sure you are safe and Okay.
First, uh, is yes. So, so, yeah. But no, I appreciate though what you, you
[00:53:46] Jeremiah: said. So yeah, thank you for coming on and speaking with us and sharing your, uh, experiences and knowledge. And it was a great hearing, everything, and like I always say, I always like to pick people’s brains and find out what they’re doing and yeah.
Thank you. Yeah,
[00:54:01] Lee: thank you so much for having me. I had a great time with this, so, um, I really, uh, I appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, no problem.