Soical Traps and Life
[00:00:00] Jeremiah: Hello, my fellow Terrestrials coming to you from an RV deep in the Carolina Mountains. Welcome to the What If They’re Wrong. Podcast. The podcast that wants you to question everything. Your reality is about to be shattered.
Hello and welcome to the What If the Wrong Podcast, the podcast. I want you to question everything. I’m joined today by Bobby Shu and he has the Mystic Talks podcast. I think I said that right, . Yeah. And, uh, we’re gonna talk today about his experiences. What his podcast is about, and how Hallie came to be where he is today. And, uh, some of the synchronicities and stuff that have led him on this journey in life.
And. We’ll get into all that good stuff in a moment, but I’ll introduce ’em now. Hello, Bobby. Hi. How are you? Good, how are you? Good, good. Thank you for coming on and speaking with us. Always, uh, fun to hear people’s experiences. And kind of get a feel for what other people are experiencing with life and the world, and.
Like I always say, you can’t know everything and you have to look at other’s perspectives. Other sides don’t get tunneled into one thought process or one vision. And so it’s good to have people on, share different experiences, learn from each other, and yeah. Um, you know, it’s up to the audience to the decide what they want to take from it.
So what. , what was like the catalyst of you going down this path of creating the podcast? Learning about yourself and the cosmic, you know, forces or whatever you want to call it?
[00:01:59] Bobby: Yeah. Um, well, I started the podcast, um, Uh, well, you know. A lot of people start a podcast cuz, you know. Just like living in this world of social media and, you know, we have, you know. We’re fortunate in this day and age to have access to. To, to being able to have platforms such as Anchor or whatever, whatever platform you use in order to.
um, to do a podcast and also to publish videos, uh, even being a self-published author. You know, all these, uh, all these things thanks to technology. Cuz all of this would’ve been obsolete just 10 or 15 years ago. So, um, you know, I’m not a very technical person. But, um, it’s a love hate relationship cuz it’s allowed me to have this.
So, it’s kind of more of a journaling experience. We’ve already gotten through the first season and it kind of did a 180. Um, it was gonna be more about, I feel like I kind of misled my guest in the beginning cause it was gonna be more about UFOs and Supernatural and our first three episodes. Our first three episodes were about that.
We had the Aurora, Texas, the Stephenville Lights, and I’m a Texan, so that hits close to home for me. . You know, one of my favorite UFO stories was Granger Taylor, and I just kind of wanted to dabble more into that and, uh, my best friend was supposed to join me, but she went Mia, due to family Matters. So, It was kind of one of those things where it was all or nothing.
It’s like, I just gotta do it. I can’t be sitting around waiting for someone to, uh, to join me. The idea of having, uh, a partner in crime to do this with sounds great, but, um, but fortunately she will be joining me for season two, uh, for more conspiracy theory episodes. But I used to be, uh, long story short, I was a, I was, uh, an actor and filmmaker, a child actor.
you know, I always had this big ambition on where I would be at a certain point in my life and, you know, speed up to the time that I was about 28, 29. Um, I’m about to be 40 this year, so, you know, I just had this idea where my life should be and it wasn’t. So I kind of dove into, um, at the time I was writing, I had a couple published, I published a couple novels, uh, through self-publishing.
you know, and I had wrote a script and I was trying to, you know, shop it around and such, you know, I, I feel that in, during that time, I, you know, cause I was, like I said, I was a child actor at the age of 13. I had done, you know, things from commercials, uh, television sitcom to soaps, um, also did community theater.
But I guess you can kind of say, I felt like I knew it all and. , you know, if, um, you know, I had such a love and appreciation for that business, that industry, uh, which on one of my episodes I talk about who I believe I was in my past life, which I think that that kind of played a part in it, you know, and then I reached a point in my life where, um, you know, I just kind of dove a little heavier into the drinking.
Um, you know, I was a functioning alcoholic, and so, , you know, it never affected my work going to work and such. Um, uh, but one day, you know, I knew it, it was a problem, but I just kind of swept it under the rug. And, and it wasn’t until after the D U I, I realized a lot of people around me said, yeah, I knew you had a dream.
I’m like, why didn’t any of you speak up and tell me? You know? So, , in all honesty. I mean, it wasn’t noticeable when it came to just everyday functions. You know, getting up, going to work, getting dressed and uh, taking care of obligations. It never affected any of that. So, and I was told those are the worst kinds of alcoholics.
So when I went down that path, it was actually a blessing in disguise. , you know, I realized when I was being handcuffed, this was, I was, uh, 34, I believe, when this happened. I’m 39 now. When this happened and I was being handcuffed, and all of this is going back to why I started this podcast. So, no, it’s not a tangent.
Uhhuh . But, um, you know, I, I have a, a strained relationship with my. I had always, always tried to please him. Um, I always wanted to be like him because I thought that that would, that would please him. And, um, I always had my mother’s acceptance and, but I, I felt like I yearned more from my father’s. Um, you know, and then my stepmom, of course, um, was no help.
And I don’t say that to be slandering or anything because I have forgiven, you know, them. I mean, we, we don’t talk. As of now, it’s been. Eight years now and how it went down. I mean, it just a short, brief scenario. It was Father’s Day. Um, you know, my stepmom and my dad had gone on a boat with her son and his wife and two kids, but my sister and I were kind of left in the dark and didn’t know.
And when I found out about it, I went off and of course I had been drinking. So when you’re drinking it, you know, Um, kind of flare up a bit so I could have handled the situation a lot better than I did. So I do take responsibility, um, for my actions. Um, I don’t believe, and this is also in the podcast, cuz the podcast also talks about, you know, just self-healing, being a better person, you know, along the lines of also, um, things on the metaphysic realm, you know, going from 3D to 5g and I feel very much like I’ve entered that 5G realm now of selfa.
Because I, I don’t believe in, in being a victim, I think we are our own worst enemies because I think a lot of times we just assume we know the answer when we truly don’t. Uh, cuz everything can be interpreted differently. And as I said, I could have handled that situation better and I didn’t. So, I mean, I’m just as accountable and as he is.
Uh, but I, I do love him. I love, and I even love my stepmother. I’ve forgiven them. Um, and if they ever choose to, to come back into my life, you know, that’s great. Uh, we don’t have to talk about the past. The past is the past. I do believe people change, uh, because Lord knows I have changed, you know, a lot.
And I’m, I’m, I mean, I’m proud of myself because, you know, if, if it’s very important to love and, and, and be proud of yourself because no one else will. And, and, and that’s the reality, you know. . You know, like I said, we live in this world today, thank God. We have platforms where we can do things such as this, this podcast, your podcast, and, you know, but there, there’s, I, I feel in some ways, you know, there’s always, uh, the dark side and I feel that some people have, um, Uh, you know, we, we live very much in a narcissistic world today, and people live in these filtered worlds where they filtered their lives.
And my best friend and I had a previous podcast and we had an episode on that called Filtered Lives, where people only show you what they want to show you. And on season two and. Also piggybacking off of season one, I kind of talk a little bit about that. How, you know, we, we beat ourselves up, you know, a lot of us do, and like I said, it goes back to being, being your own worst critic.
You know, I feel like we, we put too much pressure on ourself due to societal pressures. , but we are the ones that are in control of that, you know? So going back to the dui, when I was being handcuffed, I, I, you know, I had never been in trouble in my life and all I could think about was I’m 34 years old, I am being handcuffed.
Like this should have happened in my twenties, you know? Um, as far as, you know, just it, it was embarrassing. And I’m, I’m just now at point to where I, I’m, I’m open about it to talk about it, cuz maybe it might help somebody. . And to be honest with you, going to, um, the subject of synchronicity, I have a, a coworker of mine, she actually, uh, um, her name is Jada.
She works under me. And, um, and she wouldn’t mind me saying this, but, uh, she got in a car accident due to drinking. She had a bit of a drinking problem and I told her prior to this, you know, my D u i story, how, you know, when I was being handcuffed, I realized, You know, it was, it was after midnight, it was cold, it was February.
I had actually just ran a ultra marathon on that previous day, 31.1 miles. Went to work, sore as hell, and then came home and started drinking. And so I was trying to make the, um, I mean, I wasn’t, I wasn’t shitfaced. Saw the light turn red, the arrow. But it was those few seconds that I thought I could just run it and get to the store before they stopped selling alcohol.
So, uh, a U-Haul hit me and, um, you know, before I know it, cops are on the scene. Uh, and I did try to start the car, but, you know, I couldn’t see the front of it, but that engine was gone and it, it, it made me realize that had I, had I been a lot closer, I mean, I could have been paralyzed or that could have been.
You know, that could have been it for me. So, uh, but I realized in that moment, and even when they took me to, to jail to the detox cell, I realized in that moment I’m responsible for this. I did this to myself, but I allowed the, the emotions and the feelings I had towards my dad. And also, um, there was some work politics in play there.
So I allowed that to get the best of. , you know, and just feeling like a failure. You know, I had a great job. I did, but it wasn’t where I wanted to be. I, I, I think, you know, going back to societal pressures, I felt that I had this, this expectation to live up to. And really the only expectations are the ones that you set for yourself, uh, for yourself, not for others.
So, um, and coming into that realization, I realized that, you know, I don’t need approval from others. I don’t need to be validated by others. Everybody could hate me, but as long as I love myself, that’s all that matters. I, I even noticed we, um, here in Dallas, we have a lake, it’s called White wa uh, white Rock Lake.
It’s about, it’s almost 10 miles. And I had been outta commission from running for about three or four months. And w and it was, you know, while I was on probation and I went to the lake to go run because, um, that was the one release I had in order to get all those, um, anything I was feeling anxious about or anxiety.
Um, I would just go run and that actually took the place of alcohol, so it was running and I wasn’t able to complete the full nine, nine and a half miles. I did about six, but I had to stop and think. I was starting to go be really hard on myself and say, I can’t believe you didn’t run these nine miles.
And it’s like, but you know what? You’ve been outta commission for four months. You ran six. I’m proud of you. And that’s really all there is to it. No one else has to be proud of me but myself and you know, And, and through that, you know, when we got into Covid, um, you know, there was a lot of politics on Facebook and all social media platforms and sometimes I would comment and, and say, my peace.
And, you know, I thought since now I’m not drinking, I, you know, I had all my problems solved, but I also realized one of my other problems was, um, allowing social media to get the best of me. So I deleted my. , it was the best thing I ever did. Uh, my Instagram, which is totally dedicated to the podcast, there’s no one on my following that I know maybe like two or three, but everybody else on previous social media platforms, I’ve just given all those people up.
You know, I, I feel like I. I set myself up for failure and disappointment because I was always a people pleaser. You know, I’ve always wanted to make sure people were having a good day or, you know, I had my own business for a while. Uh, helping actors and models get signed to local agents in the DFW area and also in New York, um, when I lived there and made some connections and, and forwarded those clients to those agents and I made, you know, I also did their demo reels and their head shots.
I had probably about 200 contacts of just clients, and I would call them every week or every other week. I would go through my phone list and just to, just to shoot the shit and say, hi, how are you? , um, how’s your family? You know, and I got to the point, I’m like, why do I even do this? You know, if, if, if it’s not reciprocated, then I’d have no business doing it.
So, you know, my, my contacts on my phone now, I could probably count them all on my hands and toes. So, uh, when it used to be two, 300 people on there, there’s now probably less than 20 on my contact list. You know, you can’t please everybody. So I feel blessed in the sense that I. You know, just a handful of friends that I can truly trust and, and actually call in a time of need, you know, just to, just to talk and say, how are you?
But the reality is, if they were all gone tomorrow, I would, I mean, I would be sad. Don’t get me wrong, but I’m okay. I, I’m fine. You know, I, I’ve always been an introvert at heart, so, Being by myself was never an issue. But I, I think as people, we put a lot of pressure on ourselves and, you know, and going back to the girl I was talking about that works under me, you know, when we talk about cause and effect, I had no idea by telling her my d u I story that when she got in her accident, I mean, she shattered her femur.
She was told that she may never walk again, and now she’s walking and, um, and we do visual merchandising and I’m, I’m her, um, her manager. , when I saw her, she was confined to a wheelchair, but she came up there to see me one day after she got outta the hospital. And when she hugged me, she cried and she said, I thought about you and that story you told me, cuz it’s what got me through it.
And in that moment I teared up because it’s like we, we, we are all serving a purpose to help one another. Just like us recording this, maybe this message is something that someone needs to. and it, it, it changes them for the better. You know, it steers them on a different course. And so we, we are all playing our part.
We are all important beings that are, um, that are playing our part through this thing we called life. So, yeah, I mean, it it, you call it an adventure, you know, I, I mean, I’ve. I love living now. I mean, I, I, I’m not out to impress anybody and it, it, it feels that life has gotten so much easier that I’m just doing my own thing.
I’m not trying to get out there and be competitive. I’m just simply doing whatever makes me happy. . And I think on a subconscious standpoint, people do things. I don’t believe in competitiveness. I’m like, you know what, when, when I do those races, I’m only doing them for me. I’m like, okay, you go on ahead.
You know, , it’s whatever. You know, I, I, I, I’m too tired to compete, but I have the energy to go out there and live life, you know? Yeah.
[00:17:24] Jeremiah: It’s um, crazy about social media and I’ve been listening to different things on YouTube. different like professors and other, you know, people on there and talking about the levels of, you know, depression and anxiety and suicide and all that stuff, because people get so funneled in and focused on that social gratification and mm-hmm.
like you said, they. People put up that front where they’re like, you only see the good stuff. You don’t see like the stuff going on behind the scenes or like, you know, they look like they’re a super happy couple, but then they’re fighting, you know, after the video’s over or whatever. And, and you have like all these like, , you know, quote unquote beautiful women on there.
And they’re like, you know, seem all like confident and stuff, but like deep down inside they’re really like insecure and they’re really lacking that like attention and that self-love and all that stuff. So it’s crazy that like where we’ve come, like the internet’s such a good thing, but it’s also such a bad thing.
It is like
[00:18:27] Bobby: and, you know, going back to the, the pretty women you were talking about. , you know, after some years of putting all this investment in me, you know, uh, and, and not trying to prove anything to anybody. I had went into downtown Dallas to, uh, to meet with, um, to meet with a friend of mine for brunch, and it was at one of our favorite restaurants, and it’s kind of one of those, you know, bougie restaurants, you know, to be seen or what have you.
you know, I kind of looked around and I said, I would’ve been happier going to a Wendy’s or an ihop, you know, um, , I looked around. But you know, it, it’s funny when you have this, this awakening, I can look at other people and, and I know these people are living for the material goods. They, I mean, you know, my best friend and I put a quote together and, and no, I don’t know it by heart, but it was talking about tangible and untangible, you know, like who are.
If you, if you were to strip your, let’s say your, your job title away that you hold with pride, if you were to strip away all the material goods, the, the logos name brands, the makeup and hair, whatever, if you were to strip all that away, do you really know who you are? And so I was looking around that restaurant and I thought, these are some miserable people.
I mean, because all of them are competing with one another. . It’s like, I don’t, uh, I don’t care about this life anymore. I actually never did. I kind of fell into it because of, um, when I was in, um, when I was in, uh, living in New York. Worked for Louis Vuitton. and I, and I kind of feel like that’s what started it all, you know, uh, the types of people I was working around and, you know, people in their twenties are very impressionable in their late teens, you know, uh, early twenties, that’s when they really start developing and, you know, they’ll take things from this person or that person and kind of mimic it or make it their own.
And. I, I really feel sorry for a lot of the kids today. You know, I was born in 83 and, you know, I had kind of the best of both worlds. You know, you, during the summer times, I would be outside barefoot, walking on the hot streets. The tar would be on the bottoms of my feet and climbing trees. You don’t see kids doing that these days, and it, it’s, um, it’s just sad.
You know, we have shows now, like reality shows, you know, keeping up with the Joneses, keeping up with the Kardashian, if you wanna keep up that, you know, have at it, but you’re only making yourself miserable. And you know, even my best friend, you know, we used to get into political conversations. We actually used to see eye to eye, uh, politically on the same views.
You know, I was a diehard liberal democrat and I don’t really stand for anything now. I’m like, you know what, I, I don’t want to get into politics. I’m just gonna do. I, I, I don’t care any longer. . I I, if you’re not hurting anybody, I don’t care what you stand for, you know, I mean, I, I, I don’t have the heart to tell her that I’ll probably be voting Republican this next election, but , um, you know, simply because, you know, just everybody is a victim and, and, and it’s like, what do you want from others?
The only victim is you, you’re a victim of. Yourself. And the sooner people realize that, that the better off they’ll be. But until then, you know, while everyone’s getting woke, I’ll be over here in the corner of asleep. So just, you know, wake me when it’s over. But, um, and, and you know, I don’t have anything mean or hateful to say about anybody, you know, cuz I, I tell people every day, you know, love your enemy.
Um, that’s important. And, and, and it may be hard at times. . I am a believer in God and I know that there’s a lot of hypocrites out there too. We’re, we’re all hypocrites to a degree. All of us, my myself included, cuz I’ll call myself out on my own hypocrisy and it actually feels good. You know, once you let go of the ego and you can call yourself out on your own bs it feels, it feels.
you know, I used to be, you know, try to keep up with people, listen to the same music they do, and I have no problem telling people I like to listen to Holl Oats or, you know, or . Um, some of the old school stuff that was cheesy and, you know, it makes me feel good, but, um, I’m just trying to live my true, authentic self.
and, and spread that message along, because once you let go, you know, I, I, it, it’s almost like coming out of the closet for me, being a gay man. Like, it, it, it’s like coming outta the closet all over again. It’s like that weight, you know, you know when you have something on your mind or you’re hiding something and you don’t know what it is, even though you do know what it is, but the minute you just let it out and, and put it out there in the universe, it’s like, wow, there’s no going back.
Now. Everything, everything’s good and. when I finally stop caring what others think, I, I, you know, I don’t watch the news. If China or Russia’s gonna invade us, I, I’m sure I’ll hear about it from somebody and then I’ll make the decision if I want to go read about it or not. But I don’t watch the news. I don’t, um, there, there’s nothing even on my Instagram feed, which is really the only platform I use.
I tried Twitter, but I was like, no, I got off of that. Um, , um, I posted a couple of tos, but I don’t follow anything on there because, um, you know, it’s, it’s just toxic and I’m trying to just void all that stuff out of my life. I don’t need that. And, you know, and I’m at peace with that. You know, my partner and I eventually wanna get to a point to where we sell our house and get just a, a one bedroom mobile.
out in the country where we have property in East Texas, uh, just away from everything. You know, it’s funny, I used to judge a lot of people that were bonafide country folk and and I would call myself a bonafide city person and you know, and I was someone who was raised in the country. So I, I find myself as I get older, Getting closer and closer to going back home.
And what I mean by that is, is my roots. And you know, I don’t, when I talked earlier about, you know, when something happens in your life that’s tough, just remember this, you chose this life. I’m a big believer in that, you know, we have a, a psychic in our family. She’s been in our family for about 30 years or so.
Um, and I went to her for a reading one time too. Um, my mom took me for, uh, Birthday gift and she’s good. I think she’s the real deal. And um, but she basically says that we choose our life and, you know, After I allowed some time to pass and for that to resonate, I said, you know, if I chose this life, I probably chose the flaws and all, you know, and we, and we think about, well, why would I choose this life?
Why wouldn’t I choose like to be a, um, you know, a, a Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, or, you know, just one of those wealthy elitist, you know, why wouldn’t I have chosen that life? But I guess if you think about. You know, we’re, we’re conscious energy and energy never dies. So I’m at peace whenever God’s ready for me because, um, I know I’ll be home.
I know that this isn’t it, if you think about the body as simply a material mechanic. engineered thing, you know, uh, it will die, but you won’t. And so I think that we just go and seek through the cosmos for our next incarnation, um, for simply for the experience in order to gain wisdom. So in spite of silver, gold money, wisdom is the ultimate, highest currency one can have.
And, and I really do believe that we chose our life for that particular experience, which I always say kind of explains deja vu because I do believe we kind of get. I guess you could say a movie trailer of our life before we accept it. You know, it’s kind of like back for the, before streaming and all that.
When you would see a trailer for a movie and then you would go see it, you, you go for the experience rather it be a drama to cry or rather it be, uh, a horror film to, to get scared. You chose that experience and while you’re watching it, you notice scenes that are very similar. You’re like, oh yeah, that was from the trailer.
And I kind of think that’s where deja vu comes from. You know, we get to see our life play out. . That’s where deja vu, I believe that at least part of it anyway. And um, yeah, so when we, that, that’s what gives me peace when something doesn’t go the way I want it to, it, it kind of goes back to that cheesy, well it’s not cheesy anymore, but I used to think it was cheesy cuz I grew up in the church and they would say, let go and let God, you know, as I get older, I realize now what they mean.
You know, I was trying to steer my own course through life, but once I let. and just let things happen the way they should. You know, everything just seemed to fall into play, but when I would try to steer a different direction, if, if I failed at it, you know, I’m not the failure. It just wasn’t meant for me to go in that path.
So there’s no reason for anyone to feel like a loser or a deadbeat, you know? It just stop trying to steer the ship in the wrong direction. Just, just let go and let God let things happen and play out the way they should. And, And I think, you know, you’d be better.
[00:27:48] Jeremiah: Yeah, that’s exactly what I believe. Um, I believe that we did choose to come here.
We do have a purpose here. Um, through my near death experience, I, I ho yelled out to whatever beings we’re on the other side, that I have a mission here. I have stuff to do. And I totally think that, you know, we all do have a part to play. And I think our spiritual, like, uh, ancest, I don’t know what you call it, spiritual body.
Comes here to have these experiences and, um, because I don’t think there’s that type of experience on the other side. Mm-hmm. , it’s a different type of experience. Um, you’re a different wavelength or energy or whatever. So yeah, I totally agree with that. And then you always hear from people who had near death experiences and stuff like that.
They, um, , you know, saw their life flash before their eyes, or they were shown a like movie of their life and were told like, Hey, you, you did this right, you did this bad, you did this, this, that, that, that whatever. And, uh mm-hmm. just kind of like a life review. You know? Who’s to say we don’t get like reincarnated.
So to speak and like pick different people, different bodies. Who’s, who’s to say like in a previous life, if there is previous lives that you weren’t already a rich person or whatever. So now you’re back and you’re experiencing this type of experience of life and . I
[00:29:12] Bobby: definitely believe in it. I mean, especially, especially more so after my first astral projection, uh, experience.
When I, um, I had been trying for some time to. and then kind of going back to the let go and let God, it just kind of happened one night. Now I haven’t been able to do it again, but I had one experience and, and you know, I was very excited when I woke up the next, um, when I woke up from it, cuz when I woke up from it, it was late and I was like, okay, I’ll go to bed and tell everybody about it in the morning.
And so I. , you know, I kept waking up because it was just, I, I couldn’t sleep. It was the most phenomenal experience. So I kind of sent late text messages to friends about it. Hey, I did it. I did it. I did it. You know, and all those that know me knew that that was something I had been wanting to experience.
And I actually learned all about that from, uh, uh, Shirley McClain, her, her book out on a. and her made for TV movie of out on a limb. You can actually find it on YouTube if you type in out on a limb, Shirley McClain. It’s two parts. And you know that movie actually came into my life at the right time too, cuz it’s all about Astra projection synchronicity.
And it was kind of kind of weird that I was watching it a time when I really needed to see that. But anyway, when I astro projected, I mean everyone has kind of a different experience, but the one thing that. , that was the same in all the stories that I’ve heard. That was the same with mine. I saw the cord, but at first it was almost like, um, you know, in Star Trek in the opening or the ending of the credits where it’s just all those stars passing by.
I could see it was just, it was almost like I was going a hundred miles an hour and I didn’t know how to stop. And then all of a sudden I just kind of, with all my might, I just, I stopped. I stopped floating. and I was in this calm place and I kind of looked down and I saw this, um, I, I wouldn’t call it a silver cord, it was like a silhouette, and, but when I looked around, I could hear people talking.
I couldn’t make out what they were saying. It was just kind of like if you were at a park, you can hear people talking off in the distance, but you, you know, they’re talking, but you don’t know what they’re saying. And so I could see the silhouettes of other humans. with their cords, the silhouettes of their cords, and they were just, everybody was floating.
I mean, I didn’t have any interaction. I could just see the silhouette and I knew who they were. They were people like me that were doing the same thing. And then before I know it, I just dropped back down into my body, like I was falling off a cliff. And then I just, I jerked, but. , when I came back into my body, I had to get up, I had to pee really bad too.
So I, I’m trying to, I’m stumbling cuz I’m not quite in my body yet. And it was weird because as I’m walk getting up, I could see just, that’s never happened to me before. I could just see, it felt almost like I wasn’t completely in my body as I’m walking to the restroom. So I had to take a minute to sit down.
But it, it. it, uh, it gave me clarity is what it did. It, it truly gave me clarity that there’s something after this life. I have always wanted to see, you know, have a u f O experience of some sort. But if this was the only experience I have, it’s good enough for me in this life because it, it, it was real, you know, it wasn’t a dream.
It was, it, I mean, I knew where I was. I mean, I could feel, um, I felt at. , you know, I guess when you’re out of your body, I mean, I, I even think we astral travel and don’t even realize it when we go to sleep at night. You know, the body’s a mechanic. It has to rest, uh, much like a car, you can only drive it so long before you need to stop and get gased or a tune up or an oil change.
And, you know, I used to be an atheist and you know, I, I didn’t have, I, I just, even though I grew up in the church, but you know, I would, uh, I was telling my best friend, cuz she grew up in the church and she’s religious. Um, . And I told her, I said, you know, I feel like, uh, especially with the Grammys that passed, you know, I, I don’t watch the Grammys.
I just heard about it. And when you, you know, the unholy song that Sam Smith sung and you know, it, it, it, it didn’t anger me, it saddened me that this is what it, what it’s come to in this life is that for, you know, just simply shock value. There was nothing original or artistic about it if you ask me for my opinion, but, You know, it’s just a shame that we’re living in this society that, you know, in, in, in a, in a field that I had, you know, aspired to go into and, and, and, and be in.
If that’s what it takes to sell your soul to the devil. And I told my mom, I said, you know, I really do believe that in order to get success, as far as that industry’s concerned, you have to sell your soul depending on what stature of fame you want. And if that’s what it means. I don’t. So, um, I got out of that.
I mean, it wa it was an industry that I loved since I was a kid. Was in it when I was a kid, but I have no desire or interest to go back into it just simply for that reason. I mean, um, you know, and, and like I said, um, God does listen. He may not answer, but, you know, uh, he always comes on time. I do believe that, um, you know, when my eight year relationship.
you know, I felt like a failure cuz I was living with my mom crashing on the couch. I had my own business, you know, and I just, like I said, I wasn’t where I wanted to be. This was before the dui. I remember sitting in my car and I, and I had actually gone back to the apartment that we lived in and I thought I could handle it.
And when I went in there, uh, cause I was there to print out some stuff cuz I had an audition for a commercial. , I went there to go use the printer to print out something and you know, I went back to my car cuz I realized things that I took from that apartment were re were, they were replaced with something else.
And uh, and it was warm and cozy inside the apartment and I thought, I am going back all the way to Fort Worth to crash on my mom’s couch. You know how, how you know woe is me? And I get in the car and I just cry. Like I, I mean, I had a meltdown and I said, God, please help me. I don’t know. Don’t know what else to do.
I mean, I have six months worth of an income in my savings. I got to find a job and I don’t know where to go. And it was funny cuz I had interviewed for this, uh, department store. , it was, it was Neiman’s and, uh, for the visual management role, and I didn’t get it, but speed up to two years later when I’m crying in the car, after my eight years had ended with, uh, my previous, in my previous relationship, I was at the studio the very next day waiting for a client to come in there and I was bored.
So I actually, I don’t know what compelled me, but I checked an old email account. . I don’t know what, what compelled me to check this email, but I did. And when I did it said, Hey, we’d like to call you in. We would like to to speak with you in regards to the visual management role. And I thought, and when I looked at the time of when it was sent, it was sent within the hour.
And I mean, that wasn’t coincidence. It just could not have been a coincidence. And that’s when my faith started to restore. But like I said, never more so till after the DUI that, that I, you know, I started just letting things go. Um, you know, things don’t upset me like they used to. Uh, I’m not saying occasionally I don’t get a little upset, but I always have that moment where I’m like, okay, it’s out of your control.
Just, just let it go. Let it go. Don’t let the ego play in. Just let it. have done a lot of self-reflecting in these, uh, in these past years, and I’m very blessed, grateful, and thankful as all get out to be, you know, to think that I’m where I’m at as far as wisdom’s concerned, as far as, um, my relationship spiritually, the wisdom that I’ve gained through this, through this journey called life that, you know, everyone’s given.
but it’s up to them to learn those lessons in order to gain their wisdom. You know, I watched this one video on YouTube. It’s the 50 universal laws. So anytime I’m feeling doubt or I feel like I’m steering back to old habits, I play that video and it, it, it brings me back. You know, and that’s why I believe in, you know, rather you’re Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or whatever faith you believe you’re a Buddhist.
I think temples and churches, I think that they’re very important, you know? To have that sanctuary to go to, to be reminded about your path because I, I feel that if you are not, um, and, and you don’t have to be religious, but just to know that this isn’t it, there’s something other than this life and the only way.
you know, you’re gonna get through it. Is, is through wisdom. It’s through the life lessons because you came here for an experience and there’s lessons to be learned. I mean, every day you wake up, there’s an experience to be had an ex and, and a lesson within those experiences. And so it, it’s, you know, I, I used to think life sucks.
You know, it didn’t turn out the way I wanted, but now it’s like, shit, I love life. I love it. I mean, I, I, I finally, you know, have a. that that’s mine, that I’m, that I’m buying. You know, the bank still owns it, but I mean, I’m paying to own it, but, um, I’m in equity, so it just, it makes me feel like, you know, you may not have everything you want, but is it necessary to have it?
No. Are you healthy? Yes. I have my dogs, you know, I, um, I have my partner. and, and I have my best friend, I have my mother, um, I have people in my life and you know, so anytime I start to feel down, I think about the things that I do have, you know, to not be selfish, you know, to realize that there are people out there literally that have it worse than I do.
Way worse. And so how fortunate am I, or even yourself, like how fortunate are we to have a roof over our head, food in the fridge, the things that we need, the essential things that we. . I mean, that’s really all there is. And just to be a community again, you know, I feel like, you know, entertainment has kind of glorified that, where it’s, it’s kind of been a trend now, like, oh, I don’t know my neighbors, I don’t care to know my neighbors, you know?
And I used to think that way too. But I know the neighbor that lives across the way, the one next to me. I mean, I’m not all in their business. You know, if I needed a cup of sugar, I could go knock on someone’s door and borrow some, you know, or, um, we’re gonna be out of town. Can you watch the house? You know?
Sure. You know, I think the only way that we’re gonna get back to, to normalcy is by coming, coming together, you know, being a community, being one. And I do believe that we are being, uh, we’re being toyed with, um, as far as our emotions and the way we see others. Just this whole, uh, not that there’s anything wrong with the Industrial Revolution, but just the fact that we, we glorify stuff.
We glorify things, we worship things and, and it, and it, and it’s not about that. It’s about the relationships, it’s about the lessons. It’s about, uh, community, it’s about love. I mean, real, you know, the movie Interstellar, you know, when Matthew McConney, who gets out lost in space, he realizes that the answer is love like that.
That was the equation. That was the, the mathematical answer to everything was love. And I, I feel like we are so lacking in that, in this, in this, um, uh, it, it isn’t just a US thing, it’s a global thing, you know, that we’re just lacking empathy, lacking love. I mean, if you think about it, you know, we choose our life and these, you know, 1% of wealthy people literally have the means to end world.
You know, uh, I do believe in working for what you have, but when you literally are hoarding everything that could benefit someone, at least a stepping stone to get someone off their feet, you know, cuz not everyone is fortunate enough to have a mom or a dad or even family to lean on. You know, I think we would be better off, but unfortunately, um, I don’t, I, I mean, I don’t mean to be negative, but I don’t see that happening, you know?
And so I think as regular civilians, regular people, it’s really up to us to come together as a community and, and take back what is ours, which has been slowly but surely taken away. I mean, they’re trying to divide the herd. You know, I always tell people, don’t be a sheep, and that, and that goes back to the conversation of love your enemy.
Because in all honesty, they’re not your enemy. They’re your friend, they’re your family. I mean, we’re all connected. I mean, anyone that’s had a near death experience, the one thing I hear them say, . We are all one. We’re all God’s creation. And you know, sometimes it bring, I mean, I’ve literally cried in some of those videos, watching them, you know, when, when they think of, when you see this person, who do you see?
I see you, God. You know, when you look at yourself in the mirror, who do you see? I see you God, like we’re all one. and, and I think that we’re all just, just this big rat race of chasing after things that are so trivial in the grand scheme of things. Just very trivial. And you know, like I said, I’m, I’m guilty of it too, to a degree.
And, and I think that it’s important to even call yourself out on your own hypocrisy, your own flaws and all in order to get to that higher level of, of, of. .
[00:42:59] Jeremiah: Yeah, definitely the, and unfortunately I think some of the powers that be are working to keep us divided. keep us cause uh, they want that control over us.
They want that power over us. And you know, it’s easier to keep that power if everyone’s fighting each other instead of you . So, yeah, I can definitely see that. Yeah, we are all just living a life and I’ve traveled all over the world and everyone’s living the same. Like we all just want to have roof over our head.
Food, want friends, family. Uh, want our kids to have better than we had it and all that stuff. So yeah, it’s definitely like a universal thing, even though it seems like everyone’s so different. We’re really not, we’re all, we’re all trying to get through life pretty much the same. I think once we can
[00:43:51] Bobby: stop having those conversations about, you know, political parties, race, sex, Even religious point of view.
So we can just, just take all that aside, you know, we’re human beings, you know, that that’s, that’s all there is, you know, but we, um, you know, and it goes back to what I say. I don’t believe anybody, anybody in this world is a victim other than a victim of themselves. You know, because you’re buying into the narrative is what you’re doing.
You’re buying into the narrative. You know, and, and, and let’s just put it this way, the, the 1% who own everything, you know, from the news media outlets, they’re, they’re plaguing that narrative in their head. And I’ve even tried telling my best friend that I said, you know, so much goes on. That’s not even that the news can’t even capture, you know, but they’ll manage to capture the one story that will paint that narrative.
Now I’m just saying this much, that there’s always a bad egg in every. Rather it’s about class, race, sex, uh, political parties and such. It doesn’t matter, but you know, especially with this whole, um, woke pronoun business. You know, it’s, you know, like, where, where in the hell did this come from? You know, when you truly think about it, well, it’s what I feel, you know?
No, you don’t. This is a narrative being played out that has manipulated these young people into believing, well, I don’t identify as male or female. Like, what does it matter? What does it matter in the grant? Are you male or female? I mean, you know, if you’re, if you’re someone that believes. , I should be the other sex fine.
At least look the part so I know what to call you. You know? But pick one. Pick one or the other, you know? And , this isn’t to be mean, but you know, I mean, is this really the core of your problem? You know, because really all you’re doing is hurting yourself, you know? Like I said, you’re only a victim to. , you know, nobody, nobody in this world owes you a thing.
The only person that can uplift you is yourself. Because basically what you’re saying is, is that you have this expectation on how you want to be treated, um, all through assumption, which is driven through, you know, uh, social media, news outlets and such. You have the ability to change that narrative into saying, you know, I am not gonna be a victim.
I refuse to be a victim. It just goes back to that d u I conversation. You know, even though my dad, the relationship I had with him was, was one of the roots of my drinking. The other route was the situation, the politics that was being played out at my job, um, at the time. Um, you know, all those things. In reality, that’s my fault that I got into that, to that wreck.
That’s, that’s my. That has, I, I can’t blame them for any of that. Not, not even a little bit. I can’t blame them for any of that. That’s my responsibility. But so many people that y you know, they wanna, they, they, they wanna cry wolf and, and, and blame someone else for, for their mistakes. For their mistakes.
And, and it, and it, and really, like I said, I mean, I sound like a broken record, but you are your own victim. You are your own worst enemy. You know? It, it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks about you. All you need to do is validate yourself, you know? And it’s tiresome to see all these videos, people crying, you know, I feel like killing myself.
If you really felt like killing yourself, you would’ve done it. . I mean, that’s the reality. You would’ve done it already. You’re looking for that sympathy plea. The comments, the likes, the shares, the, you know, oh, I’m sorry. You know? No, I, I don’t understand what’s wrong with people. You know, it, it, life isn’t complicated.
It’s what the Dai Lama said. Life isn’t complicated. People make it complicated. It’s, it’s really not that complic.
[00:47:50] Jeremiah: Yeah, that’s so true. We are our worst enemy and uh, and I’m speaking from experience myself. There’s a lot of times I hold myself back because, uh, just blocking myself from achieving something.
Mm-hmm. and I have no one to blame but myself and. I always tell people like at be good with yourself and do what you want to do and don’t live for someone else. And don’t try to be someone you’re not. Cuz at the end of the day, who are you going home to? You’re not going home to these people, you’re going home to yourself.
And then you gotta live with yourself. You gotta look at yourself in the mirror and, and what are you gonna see If you’re being super fake everywhere, , you’re gonna see yourself in the mirror and you’re not gonna like it. And. . That’s where a lot of people get with the, um, trying to keep up with the Joneses is and then they end up being miserable cuz it’s not their true self, they’re not true
[00:48:42] Bobby: life.
And I, the one message I would say the takeaway from all this would be, you know, it’s not to say that you shouldn’t be a little selfish, it’s life is all about balance. You know, it’s like even with my partner, , you know, he’s a mechanic, so he’ll, he’ll fix someone’s car for free or you know, and go to 10 buck two to do it, and yet waste his gas money.
And then it’s the end of the month. And here I am, sparing him some change and I’m like, look, you know, you need to start charging for this. It’s okay to be a little selfish. And then when he needed something, there was no one there to back him up. And I said, see, I said, there’s a time and a place for everything you know, you should be selfless and.
You know, if you can within reason, if you can. So all that to say, you know, it, it, it’s really this whole balance beam, you know, you need to learn how to balance, you know, and, and, and make proper decisions. You know, if, if, if it’s gonna put you out, then don’t do it. If you can’t spirit, don’t do it. You know, and if he has a little extra money, if someone needs it, he’ll give it.
I said, you should be putting that back for a rainy day. You. Um, you have to put yourself first in certain circumstances, but when it just simply comes to saying hello, you know, I mean, he has the worst road rage, and I tell him all the time, I said, why? Why do you care? And I, that’s one thing I can say about myself.
I’ve never really had road rage. The only time I’ve ever experienced that if, if someone truly was about to make me wreck, then I would get pissed or upset. But other than that, you know, if they cut me off and it didn’t cause me to have, Turn the wheel or what have you. I don’t care. You know, if it made you feel good, then I mean, have at it.
I mean, I’m, I’m just, I’m doing my thing within this vehicle, and I tell ’em all the time. I said, you know, you could run into that person tomorrow at Walgreens or c v s and let’s say you dropped your wallet or something, and they, they, they, they saw it and they saw you from your license and said, Hey, you dropped this.
You would be like, oh, that is the nicest person. You know, like, like, you don’t see many people. And little did you know that was the person yesterday that you were screaming, son of a bitch. You know? And like it’s nothing personal. Yeah. Don’t take it personally.
[00:50:53] Jeremiah: Yeah, it always, uh, always gets me when I’m driving and I see people raging in my rear view mirror, or like, I hear people honking and stuff like that, and it’s like not that big of a deal, like in the grand scheme of things, it’s whatever, and like, oh.
you’re gonna be 30 seconds behind what you would’ve been . And then you see the people that are like flying and weaving in out of traffic and almost causing accidents. Exactly. And then you’ll see ’em at the same light that you’re at. It’s like, how good did that make you ?
[00:51:24] Bobby: I mean, I do talk about them in, within my vehicle, you know?
Uh, it’s like, oh yeah, you got far, huh?
[00:51:33] Jeremiah: So yeah. It’s all, it’s all a balance, like you said. like the old yin and yang and like, there’s gotta be good and bad and you know, I don’t think it’s possible for people to be like completely good.
[00:51:46] Bobby: Oh no. Um,
[00:51:47] Jeremiah: even I slipped, I. Yeah. Cuz everyone’s got that little bit of dark side on ’em. . Yeah. Um, and I don’t care what anyone says, like you can lie if you want to, but yeah, everyone’s got that little bit of dark side in them, so, but it’s all about, you know, being the best that you can
[00:52:03] Bobby: be.
And I’m not claiming to be some guru or I don’t even want that responsibility because, you know, I, I do, I do slip from time to time. I mean, hell, I slipped today, you know? Right. Right before coming on here at work. You know, but it’s all about catching yourself and then just, just simply trying. That’s all you can do is just try and being aware.
[00:52:25] Jeremiah: for sure. So if um, people want to listen to your podcasts or get ahold of you, how can they, uh, go about doing that?
[00:52:33] Bobby: Um, they can go on to, uh, Spotify and search under Mystic Talk, and they can also email me if they like, or even on Instagram, it’s, uh, mystic, uh, underscore. , uh, they can email me at Mystic Talk with bobby shu gmail.com, especially if they would like to, to, you know, be part of season two.
It’s still in development. We probably won’t launch the first episode until June. You know, we actually, on this season, we have a few guests, actually I think one of them was yours, uh, Laura West, who is uh oh. Yes. , yeah. A Guided Life podcast. And Eleanor Wagner, who’s the paranormal, uh, investigator and author, and I believe she has her own platform podcast as well.
Um, and then I’ll have my best friend where we’ll talk about conspiracy theories. Um, you know, like I said, this podcast did kind of a 180 towards the end, you know, it was more. self-reflecting and healing. And, uh, we’re really gonna try this season to have more of the supernatural and U f O talks on season two conspiracy theories, which I love a good conspiracy theory.
I try not to get political about. It’s just fun. Rather, it’s true or not. It’s just fun to speculate, you know? So, um, so we’ll have a lot about, uh, a lot about that. One of my favorite episodes that will launch, that you have to look for is, uh, we talk about the ice wall. , uh, and the inner Earth people. So I’m looking forward to that.
But they can find me on Spotify under, uh, mystic Talk, uh, the all of First Seasons there and we’re developing and working on season two, uh, as we speak. So be on the lookout for that. But, uh, to get up to de uh, up to date information, uh, my ear stopped up, so I’m kind of stumbling on my words. I can’t even hear myself talk out of the right ear.
Uh, I think I’m coming down with something, but they can, um, the best way to be notified and, and, and, and, um, and keep up with what’s going on on Mystic Talk is to follow, uh, follow me on Instagram, which is, uh, mystic under, uh, underscore talk. So Mystic Talk at Instagram. Yeah,
[00:54:41] Jeremiah: I’ll, uh, make sure to link in the description so people can get to it quickly.
But yeah, thank you for coming on. Thank you for speaking with us, sharing your experience and being able to talk about, you know, some issues that aren’t, you know, super talked about, like, uh, all the like being fake and all this social media being in a front and you’re not seeing the whole picture, stuff like that.
I like hearing about that, like talking about that cuz it is true. You only see what people want you to see when it comes to the social media, like the Facebook profile or the Instagram or TikTok or whatever. It doesn’t show the whole picture. You don’t know what’s going on when the camera’s not rolling.
And you know, I know from personal experience, from people that I’ve known in the past and friends and stuff like that, their life is completely different than what is presented on . Yeah. Online.
[00:55:35] Bobby: But I think, I mean, it’s good to bring awareness to that cuz that’s also part of spiritual growth as well.
[00:55:41] Jeremiah: Yeah.
And um, so yeah, thanks for coming on and uh, yeah, it was a good chat. Yeah.
[00:55:47] Bobby: Thank you for having me.